a tool in need of a hand. reply ASAP please. UK LAW

[Parksy93]

alright so heres my issue. planning on booking for my CBT soon yeah. i know completing it gives me two years to pass for a full test before it needs renewing yeah. but what i want to know is the following:

by law (other than a helmet obviously) is there any gear i need to ride my bike. im not getting a moped or scooter-cant stand the things for some reason. bike all the way for me but yeah. any gear?

and yall got any decent suggestions on a cheap model. ive not got a huge buget with still being in college so wanting something second hand for about 500£ at most. any suggestions on models?

and the main question here: if i remember rightly you cant ride on a duel carriage way with learner pads right? i hope im wrong there because itd be pretty pointless in my area.

cheers.

[carvell]

No, no gear required apart from a helmet. Gloves advisable though.

How old are you, 16 or 17? If you're 16 then you're limited to a 'moped' (any bike less than 50cc that will do 30 mph max).

Yes, you can ride on dual carriageways. You can ride on any road you like, expect motorways and roads which have a sign up saying "no learner drivers or motorcycles under 50cc" (these are basically dual carriageways with motorway restrictions).
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[_Troy_]

Legally you only need a helmet, but you can be damn sure most of us wouldn't dream of only wearing that one basic piece of protective equipment. It's gloves, proper padded jacket and motorcycle boots every time. The only area I skimp is by wearing jeans if I'm only doing short journeys.

Oh and you can ride on dual carriageways, just not motorways. But make sure you don't do it on a 50cc, personally think its stupid and dangerous, especially for a new rider.

Oh and is that budget just for the bike, for everything including insurance and gear...you'll struggle with £500 if it's for everything.
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[Nope.]

Good lord please tell me your a troll. If not then I fear for the future of humanity. All this stuff is answerable from a quick google if you don't know it already but here goes:

1) Legally you only need a helmet whilst riding, on your CBT the instructors should tell you to wear a jacket/gloves/boots etc. that they will provide. On the road if you don't at least wear a jacket, gloves, helmet and boots then your just asking for road rash if you crash.

2) Bike for around £500? CG 125. Perfect learner bike. You'll probably be looking at one with an MOT but requiring a bit of work. Nothing to difficult though I shouldn't think. Avoid everything chinese, its just not worth the hassle.

3) Learner pads? What the hell are those? The closest thing I can think of is Learner Plates. To answer the question yes you can ride on duel carriageways with L Plates. You can't however use motorways. If you don't know that then you should probably do some theory practise before hitting the road so your not a danger to yourself/other motorists.

Remember to factor the costs of Insurance and gear into the budget and on top of that you might also want to get some security devices to help stop your bike getting stolen.
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[Parksy93]

Motto worry, I wouldn't plan on not going on the road without gear. I'm new but I'm not that much of a tool- just wanted to know if it were a legal requirement or not. As for age I'm 18 so as far as I know I'm not limited to a moped. And the budget is just for the bike. Insurance and mot i will sort before i ride obviously but i dont need both right away- want to know i have my bike ready first. But your answers have been brilliant so cheers

[TheSmiler]

[Parksy93]

Sorry about any mistake on these posts. My autocorrect is being an utter bitch right now

[carvell]

I wondered how long it would be before someone started posting pictures of gravel rash.

I'm sure the OP can use his imagination with regards what he'll look like after sliding down a road at 40mph.

10 points to the first person to bring up the "and when you get to hospital they use a really sharp abrasive brush on your wounds which is the most painful thing ever like".
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[blurredman]

Why's everybody forgetting about the legal requirement of covering one's private parts.. ?
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[sidewinder]

Feel the need to post this still
https://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/sidewinder11/edited.jpg

Brittany morror roadrash queen
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[Teflon-Mike]

WHY! Do we need the Hammer House of GORE photo's every fucking time someone even HINTS at riding without leathers?!

Accidents happen. NOT just on motorbikes.

You can get yourself pretty badly mangled in a car......

https://www.seriousinjurylaw.co.uk/fimg/250x250/1968/19453529-Woman-in-car-accident-suffers-possible-spinal-injuries.jpg

https://www.baycityproductliabilityattorney.co/library/images/stock-images/injury-personal/car-accident-neck-support-spinal-injury.jpg

https://wrecks.justsickshit.com/wp-content/gallery/crazy-car-wrecks/horrific_car_crash_1.jpg

https://media.apnonline.com.au/img/media/images/2010/12/15/TCH_16-12-2010_PAGE_3_01_1612%20john%20weston_t325.jpg

This bloke fell off a ladder trimming a tree in his garden

https://www.statesman.com/multimedia/dynamic/01506/0701scharrer_ins_1506194c.jpg

This one was done by a lawn mower....

https://www.worldortho.com/dev/images/morfeoshow/gallery_orth-7079/big/Fx.OpenFxarm.Lawnmowerinjury.Highincidenceinfection.Notewoundorganicdebris.1.jpg


This Couple were rather nastily burned having a fancy meal in a resturant!

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/19/article-2175896-141FAFBF000005DC-76_306x423.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/19/article-2175896-141FB0E9000005DC-159_306x423.jpg
Aparently the 'Flaming Delight' wasn't!

This was a Knife attack.....

https://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/resources/images/193472/?type=articleLandscape

There are plenty of such photo's on the web... Women falling asleep on sun-beds without a timer; or dropping wet chips into a chip pan; people chopping fingers off chopping onions for tea; falling off ladders, chewing arms to bits with wood-work saws, or getting cought in cement mixers; chemical burns from domestic bleach, cleaning the toilet; walking into lamposts while drunk, or falling off curbs, or simply being mugged by a drug-addict!

And actually, going by UK stats, you are far more likely to be seriousely injured doing DIY around the house, or going for a drink on a Frinday night, than you are on a motorbike!

Yeah! GREAT, lets promote SAFETY.....

But this kind of scare-mongering is NOT that helpful, perpetuating and feeding peoples FEARS, not educating them over the real RISKS.... And gory photo's designed to gain an EMOTIVE reaction, not a RATIONAL one... one that will make them 'scared' NOT 'think', and its thinking thats needed, not feeling!

All this crap does is make people more afraid, by showing them what COULD happen, and implying that it WILL unless they wear kit!

Sorry it WONT! And even WITH kit you can still get pretty badly banged up!

'Safety Wear' is NOT 'Safe'! - Does fuck all to stop you getting injured, merely effects how much hurt you gonna suffer if you are. It ENT a bludy invulnerability suit!

Sure better to have some protection than not, but it ent the be all and end all of 'safety', and dedicated motorbike 'gear' is NOT the only way to provide either 'protection' OR add safety.

To be 'Safe' you need to USE your head, not stick it in a plastic pot and think you have 'safety covered'...

You DONT....

Thank-You: as a rider of 30 years who's still alive, and happily toddling around, occasionally even in T-Shirt & jeans, and having managed to avoid any such majorly grotesque injuries, I feel so much better, offering this counter-point!
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[_Iain_]

Could post pics that prove full leathers, gloves, boots etc wont always save your skin. Even in a sub 50mph accident...
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[TheSmiler]

[Rogerborg]

[Billo63]

All valid points indeed, but surely the ULTIMATE safety equipment available to anyone is the old grey matter

Each to their own , but for me it's quite simply ATGATT!
, irrespective of how long/short the journey will be.

At some point, most riders think that they are going to be safe & thankfully most of the time they are, but no matter how good or safe a rider you believe self to be there is no accounting for others actions on the road - a split second is all it takes after all as we know.

The only problem with common sense is it ain't that common.
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