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gandy666
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 11 Sep 2012    Post subject: threadlock on a clutch centre bolt Reply with quote

hi

i have an ongoing saga regarding the slipping clutch on my GSX1100g.

its a hydraulic unit with a diaphragm clutch.

I've replaced the spacers and friction pads (probably unnecessarily), torqued the centre bolt up to 110 Nw (manual recommends 90 - 110 - still slipped at 100) and was ok for a day then started slipping again.

I have new springs coming this week - not sure if the springs are meant to keep the centre bolt in place as well as squeezing the plates together, or to purely for the plates.

If not designed to keep the bolt in place, I was going to use a drop of threadlock.

anyone foresee a problem with this? i will be using it sparingly
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 11 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

manual doesn't mention threadlock, i'm just running out of ideas.

looks like this: https://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gsx1100-199 ... ml#results

no locking washer, my clutch is exactly the same as the diagram and is torqued as per the manual.

last thing to change are the springs - part no 15 - ordered them today.

only slips once heated up, like 40 miles into a journey.

have replaced all the 9's and 10's and put 10w40 part synth halfords oil. also bled the clutch after refitting everything.

suppose the only thing it can be is them springs.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 12 Sep 2012    Post subject: Re: threadlock on a clutch centre bolt Reply with quote

gandy666 wrote:

i have an ongoing saga regarding the slipping clutch on my GSX1100g.

its a hydraulic unit with a diaphragm clutch.

I have new springs coming this week


Has it got a diaphragm or has it got springs?It can only be one or the other.(linky not worky)If it has springs there should be a service limit mentioned in the manual.If they have sacked out then this could cause clutch slip.

Does the pushrod withdraw smoothly?

Is the pushrod straight?

Are there any notches where the clutch plates locate in the basket?

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PostPosted: 15:24 - 12 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tightening torque of the clutch hub doesn't affect the load on the plates - that's all supplied by the springs.

Check the thickness of the pressure plate against the minimum spec in the manual.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 12 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello

is a diaphragm clutch with 2 sprung washers - number 15 on the diagram below for the GSX1100g

OEM Number: 09164-47001
Product Number: 0916447001

https://www.2wheelpros.com/oem-parts/suzuki-spring-09164-47001-part.html

if these springs are only the only thing keeping the plates together when I'm not touching the clutch, I can see that its anything else. the engine heating up must be having an effect since its fine when cold.

never noticed any notches but will take a look when i take it apart again, probably tonight.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 12 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

have a micro meter coming so can check the thicknesses when it arrives
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 12 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:00 - 12 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

gandy666 wrote:
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At least my clutches don't slip. Thumbs Up
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