Not a happy chappy

[Ollossm]

Hi Folks

I have been lurking for a while and had hoped my 1st post would be something nice / interesting.

I wasn't expecting my first post to be a venting spleen one!

Picked up a new CBF125 on Sept 12th and today had a few issues.....

Coming across a busy right turn off lights with a car right up my arse when all power just dropped away, caught me out and the car driver behind! Cleared the junction ok, pulled over..calmed down and back off again, a tad non responsive.

Pulled up at a roundabout, sat waiting and engine cuts out! Started....cut out again....Started....cuts out again. Pull in and wait for a bit. Started up and engine responded...no problems....pull left on to roundabout and bike just dies mid lane with yet again a car coming at me from the right!

There are a lot of bloody roundabouts between me and the dealers! Each one now posed a problem....limped to the dealers!

Dealer was superb, mechanic straight out, bike tested for 30-40 minutes solid and then the verdict....fuel pump failure!
The bike is 2 days old with just 63 bloody miles on the clock.

Not overly impressed with Honda at this moment in time! A search when finally home revealed this is a pretty common fault!
How the hell with a known issue can they justify compromising rider safety?

If the bike was older or the component older I can understand failure but 2 days and less 70 miles is just gob smackingly unbelievable!

As I say can't fault the dealer at all, hands on as soon as I walked in and a loan bike immediately offered (twist and go when your only used to gears is strange, very very strange )

cheers and all the best
Marc
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current bike: 2012 Honda CBF 125
past bikes: 2004 Suzuki VanVan 125 - 1988 MZ/Simson 50cc

[janner_10]

Well mechanical parts can fail, its the nature of the beast sadly. Generally bikes aren't as reliable as cars and tend to be more crude.

Hopefully its a 1 off and you will probably get many miles of trouble free motoring ahead.

Dealer sounded brilliant. Its a brand new machine and it shouldn't of happened, but these things do, not only with bikes but cars, TV's etc etc.

Honda are mostly fantastic machines, hopefully this is a one off for you.
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Yamaha FZS600 (Now gone to heaven) > CBR600F4i (SOLD) > '99 YZF-R1

[Matt-]

Its a very common problem with the new CBF's

Lucky it's happened in warranty, and the dealer was nice to you
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Current Bike's - Road Legal TZR 125 Pitbike, Aprilia SR50R 2010

[Ollossm]

Cheers for reply.

I hope it is just a one off too, although I am now recently aware some people are now on their 4th fuel pump!
Am also aware that Honda are leaving people in cold when warranty runs out even with a known issue prior to warranty ending they are making the customer pay for pumps when warranty expires (albeit that example is Honda Portugal)

Having just found out issue is ongoing with model since 2008 am beginning to doubt Honda's attitude to quality control and ability to solve problem other than replace part after part until the warranty expires.

Wife is totally and utterly happy with NC700 though
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current bike: 2012 Honda CBF 125
past bikes: 2004 Suzuki VanVan 125 - 1988 MZ/Simson 50cc

[Rogerborg]

The CBF is an Indian bike, designed for and sold into the Indian market and made for bowls-of-rice money. We pay real money for the same bike with bodged on afterthought fuel injection, a cat, and that dodgy fuel pump - which still hasn't received a VOSA recall.

Personally, based on what we've heard about it over and over and over again, I wouldn't take a dump on one.
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[keggyhander]

Find a fuel pump from another model that doesn't shit itself.

[neil.]

This is getting to the stage of sheer negligence - it seems the issue is caused by some sort of corrosion inhibitor applied to the inside of the tank - the tank isn't flushed properly before they're filled up for the first time and whatever that stuff is clogs up the fuel pump, but for some reason, in most cases the problem only becomes apparent when the ambient temperature is hot and the engine has been running under load for a while. There are various rumours/accounts of dealerships being sent memos about this from Honda as well. This issue has been known about for the best part of 2 years now - seems to have manifested on some 2010 models and almost every 2011 model.

Edit: In my case I encountered this problem at around 1000 miles, and since the pump was replaced it has never reared its head again, even in the scorching weather we've had in the last few weeks. Perhaps that's because I do 300 miles a week so my tank was pretty well 'flushed' out by the amount of petrol that the bike was using.
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CBT February 2008 | A2 June 2008 | Yamaha YBR125 (written off) | Honda CBF125 (current)

[skylineonfire]

Identical issue happened to my 2012 CBF125 too, after 600 miles. Most prominent in hot weather.

Took it to dealer, they instantly new what it was, fixed under warranty in 3 days, gave me a spare CBF125 they had while mine was being fixed. 3k miles later, no issues, brilliant service from Honda to be fair.

Once they fix it, I doubt you'll have any issues as the mechanic told me he's switched out about 20 fuel pumps on CBF's and none have returned faulty since the first one was removed.

[Polarbear]

[neil.]

This is a disaster waiting to happen - you could be anywhere and the engine will cut out/bunny hop like mad causing someone to plough into you, or crash whilst cornering or worse. Add to that the majority of the people who own these bikes are learners. Someone will end up dead or seriously injured because of this - perhaps it's already happened.
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CBT February 2008 | A2 June 2008 | Yamaha YBR125 (written off) | Honda CBF125 (current)

[Ollossm]

Thanks for replies folks

Dealer has even said they'll try and have it back on road tomorrow at some point...assuming Honda send the part out that is.

On an unrelated area delaer did say on day of purchase that after this he has been advised he can't expect deliveries of CBF's until into 2013! Wonder if that's becuase they have to strip out the pumps of the bikes not yet in dealers for replacements for those that have been sold
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current bike: 2012 Honda CBF 125
past bikes: 2004 Suzuki VanVan 125 - 1988 MZ/Simson 50cc

[neil.]

I believe a revamped model of the CBF is on the horizon for next year.
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CBT February 2008 | A2 June 2008 | Yamaha YBR125 (written off) | Honda CBF125 (current)

[Ollossm]

[Rogerborg]

Woudn't. Take. A. Dump. On. One.
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike

[Ollossm]

[Ollossm]

Hats off to my local dealership....part came in this morning and immediately fitted.

Today is gloriously sunny here and ideal for a bike ride.......however I have been reliably informed that the grass in the garden is aspiring to be a jungle wannabe and I must do that first!
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current bike: 2012 Honda CBF 125
past bikes: 2004 Suzuki VanVan 125 - 1988 MZ/Simson 50cc

[Timmeh]

[mentalboy]

[Ollossm]

back mowed now just the front and then out n about
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current bike: 2012 Honda CBF 125
past bikes: 2004 Suzuki VanVan 125 - 1988 MZ/Simson 50cc