Advise on bike - Zennco Bullet DFE125-8A

[fitzy_bike]

Hello,

I've come across this online and I have to say I like the look of it.

I wondered if anyone has had any experience with these as I can't find much online.

I'll be using the bike for around 6 months to gain some experience on the road before my DAS.

The link to the bike is below

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YBR-125cc-STREET-SPORTS-BIKE-COMMUTER-MOTORCYCLE-125-/110617140237?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item19c14b9c0d

[Andy_Pagin]

Can't get at ebay from work, but a bit of googling implies this is another generic Chinese bike - Lexmoto etc. etc. Expect the usual problems with chinky quality control & chocolate components.
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[fitzy_bike]

For around a grand surely it cant be that bad should all of these bikes be tarred with the same brush?

[Carl_steveo]

I wouldn't tar them all with the same brush I just wouldn't really want to take the gamble. There are at least 15 Honda Cg 125's on eBay at the moment. I doubt you'd get any problems with in 6 months of owning a CG and it would be easier to resell on after. And less than a grand too.
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[Andy_Pagin]

As far as I can make out all these bikes are actually made in the same factory with just minor details changed for the client. I mean I could bung the factory some dosh and have a crate of 'Pagin Motorcycles' up for sale a month later. Wouldn't make them any better or worse than any other brand.

In practice all the Japanses 125s are made in China, so similar wages and production overheads. So how come the Chinese brands are so much cheaper? I'm guessing it's because they use the cheapest possible components, and they're rushed them down the production line at break neck speed by pheasants working 20 hour shifts, and don't bother with quality control.

As others have said in other threads, that one grand asking price is just the beginning, you'll need to factor in the cost of numerous repairs as the bike falls apart in the first and most likely last year of its life. You might get lucky and get a good one. Personally I'd rather go Japanese and not have to live on luck.
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[fitzy_bike]

I like the look of them and the appeal of getting a new bike that hasnt been dropped or ragged 100000's of times appeals more.

Also I've checked the Honda Cg 125's on ebay for under a grand? cant really see any in decent condition.

[Carl_steveo]

Even in shit condition a CG will be less trouble than the bike your looking at.

I wouldn't worry too much about a ragged CG either their engines are nuke proof. It's your choice at the end of the day mate but if it was me I'd stay clear of the one your looking at. You could buy it for a Grand now and struggle to sell it in 6 months. Or buy a CG for £600-700 and sell it for near enough the same price in 6 months.
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[Firkit]

[fitzy_bike]

I've counted on the £100 I was just referring to the bike cost.

I really like the style of the Yamaha YRB but another part of me is thinking screw it just use that cash for the DAS and then buy a old plate R6

[fitzy_bike]

I've counted on the £100 I was just referring to the bike cost.

I really like the style of the Yamaha YRB but another part of me is thinking screw it just use that cash for the DAS and then buy a old plate R6

[fitzy_bike]

Is it also called the bullet because it will kill you?

[LockyUK]

fitzy i would suggest a bigger bike... definitely.. i was happy with my cbf 125 but i find myself getting bored and i am standing to take a significant loss with my cbf 125 so i can get myself an er6f/n restricted tho...

if i did it again i would of hired a bike to do my tests and go straight to bigger... hindsight is wonderful

[fitzy_bike]

I'm thinking that route is probably going to be better.

In the long run I guess its important to do the right thing.

I think I'll look into the DAS

[matto]

[Rogerborg]

First, are you at least 24? If not, book and pass any test that you can, now. Like, right now. Book your Theory now. Not tonight, not tomorrow, now.

Well, OK then.

It's the same bike as the Lexmoto Street. That'll set you back a little bit more, but insurance and probably resale will be easier. You may even get a warranty that's worth the paper it's (if you're lucky) written on.

It's a cheapish decent looking commuter. You can't lose that much on it, but you will lose more than on a similarly priced YBR kept for 6 months.

Budget for ACF-50, LocTite and spring washers. Be prepared to bolt a few bits back on until it's settled down.

The warranty on the Zennco will be whatever they can be bothered supplying.

CMPO stock parts, so you're OK there.

You could do worse, but you could do better too. It's really up to you. If you insist on it, I'd go for the Lexmoto Street - use the Zennco as a haggling point.
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[daemonoid]

Whether the bike is decent or not doesn't really have any baring...

If you buy this you'll only be able to sell it for less than £500. If you buy a slightly more expensive 2nd hand ybr or cg then you'll end up selling for only a minor loss.
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[kernow24]

Me personally, if I were to go for a cheap chinky bike, although
they aren't THAT cheap, compared to a YBE that's a few years old.
I'd go for either the Lexmoto Street as mentioned for a little extra,
the consensus around is that it's a much higher quality bike
than a lot of the other chinky bikes, even made in the same
factory in China as the Yamaha YBR.

but if you don't want to pay the extra, go for a Sanya sy125:
again this bike gets fairly good reviews around the web, and
it's a few hundred cheaper than the one you mention, or go for
the sukida sk125, it's on insurers lists, a couple of hundred
cheaper than the bullet.

But all these chinky bikes are much of a muchness, not the best
quality but get the job done, but I'd always put my money in
used jap bike, until the chinky knockoffs up their game.

They are getting there, thinks have improved greatly in the past few
years, but there's a bit to go before they are on par with the jap branded
bikes.

Second, third, faith or tenth hand YBR, CG etc etc is where it's at for
a tool to enable you to move up, you will lose little to no money on
it, the chinky bike will become next to worthless after 6 months.

Everybody likes a bit of shiny crap, but save the pounds to put in to
the new, 'big bike' look at a 125 as a little savings pot towards the bike
you want when you pass your tests.

Stick every penny you can afford in to a decent jap 125, and every penny
of it will still be there when you decide to trade up for something bigger.
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[symonh2000]

This one looks better than a YBR/Lexmoto street IMO, and the black would be easier to keep looking nice than chrome.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lexmoto-Arrow-125cc-Commuter-MotorBike-Motorcycle-/190708305608?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2c6719cec8

Although I am not sure I would buy one.
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[fitzy_bike]

I think the general rule is nail the Theory

Get a DAS spend the 1k toward a decent 500-600 bike.

I think this is what I'll do I'll probably get impatient and buy something though.

We shall see

Whats the best way of training DAS intensive or spread out across weekends?

[Rogerborg]

[fitzy_bike]

I don't really need a long term view with the bike as I just want something I put put a few thousand miles on and practice before going into a DAS cold with no bike experience.

[kernow24]

[Rogerborg]

Then buy anything for £1K. The older it is, the less you'll lose. Heck, buy now, sell in the spring, you may make a little on it.

Again, just to be sure: you're 24 or over?
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[SamWise72]

Lexmotos aren't all made in the same factory; different models, different sources. They're a brand, not a manufacturer.

[Rogerborg]