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Peasnall
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 25 Oct 2004    Post subject: Restriction help Reply with quote

Hi i am 15 and have a KX250 that was used for closed curcuit racing, my dad has ridden it and it is very jumpy in gears 1,2 and 3 after that it is fine, what i am asking is where can i get a restristor for a 1990 kx 250 and how much will they cost (extimate) will it make a difference and what will it restrict it to.

thanx james
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AdamBoyle
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 25 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st question, Why would you want to restrict it?

You might be able to get one, but quite frankly its a waste of money.. If you want to ride it on the road when your 16 you'll be better off with a ped, or if you want to look "cooler" an RS50...

I couldnt give you on estimate on a price, but it would make a huge different (imagine bunging a solid metal plate into your exhaust pipe or blocking the fuel intake... it'd make a different wouldnt it..)

Sorry ive been more critical than constructive, but it seems an odd thing to do...
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Ste
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 25 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick check on the FI International website shows that you can't get a 33bhp restrictor kit for it which are the only restrictor kits which are made. You could pay somewhere to restrict the bike but you'd be much better off getting a bike of the power you want rather than restricting the KX. Why do you want to restrict it? Confused
AdamBoyle wrote:
You might be able to get one, but quite frankly its a waste of money.. If you want to ride it on the road when your 16 you'll be better off with a ped, or if you want to look "cooler" an RS50.

Well if he wants to ride it on the roads when he is 16 he's going to have to wait a year until he is 17 and has passed his test as you cannot ride a 200cc bike with just a CBT at the age of 16 or 17/
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Peasnall
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 25 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

im gettin an RS50, i want the bike restricted so i get usd to it, to ride up the fields
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27yo kid
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: rs50? Reply with quote

Pah, get a GPR50 cheaper and more fun.
(in my opinion)

Derestriction can be awkward though, still trying to find someone who'll do it for me!
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cagiva gezzer
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its 250 two-stroke single, its going to be a beast of an engine. You'll have to learn throttle control. If its anything like a cr250 it will put up in 1-3 easily.

I wouldn't advise restriction as it wil quickly gunk up he engine as it won't be able to rev freely. BUT, the only way you could do it would be to put a spacer in the top of the carb, so that the throttle won't be able to open fully. The power valve is prob mechanical, so that will be hard to de-activate to tame the top end.

27yo kid - derestriction is easy on most derbis, unless they've got clever and put electric restrictors in the,. Check out the derbi forum for info.
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27yo kid
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: restricting my restriction! Reply with quote

no-one really seems 100% of what to do, I'm going home tonight to see if I can remove the restrictor in the air intake (or carb) but as for the exhaust, if I get a mechanic to do it it'll show on the stock exhaust, and I'm not really after that.

Besides, Its only done 100k and still needs to go in for its first service!
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 28 Oct 2004    Post subject: restrictor Reply with quote

I have bought a new Honda CBR125 and had a micron exaust fitted, but the speed on mine seems to be very slow and have had numerous problems with it, radiator burst, choke working itself! and the air intake blocked, has anyone else got one and what year and speed do you get? also does anyone know a page which has the restrictor details on it or know where they are, please read this and reply as close to getting a black bomb rs even though i am told they are less reliable,
thanks everyone!
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Keith
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 28 Oct 2004    Post subject: Re: restrictor Reply with quote

Phoenix_Redx wrote:
I have bought a new Honda CBR125 ...

If its new, you should be taking it back to the dealership you bought it from.

As for restrictions, there are none in the CBR125. The pipe may be quite restrictive but its not put there to restrict the power to a certain level.

As for the KX dilemma, you really should of went for something a lot less powerful if you are a new rider. It'll prove quite challenging to master clutch and throttle control on something which has constant power throughout the rev range.
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 28 Oct 2004    Post subject: Re: restrictor Reply with quote

Phoenix_Redx wrote:
I have bought a new Honda CBR125 and had a micron exaust fitted, but the speed on mine seems to be very slow


They should do a true 75~80mph. Probably mid 80s indicated.

Phoenix_Redx wrote:
also does anyone know a page which has the restrictor details on it or know where they are,


The CBR125 is not restricted. They make just under 14hp as standard. You might gain a tiny amount with the Micron can but without one hell of a lot of work it is not going to get anywhere near the performance of an RS125.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 29 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

couldn't he just add a few more teeth at the back? lose some of that acceleration he really doesn't want/need?

Or won't that be drastic enough?

Gaz
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Kye
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PostPosted: 01:01 - 29 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt a CBR would pull the gearing that well.

It's been cleverly advertised as a sports bike, by looks and its name, so people have bought it without realising its slow and crappy, and not a touch on the NSR, let alone an RS
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Gazdaman
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 29 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw one in my local bike shop next to a CG125. The CG put it to shame.

I nearly had to kick it over, or put a cub90 in its place.

Gaz
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phil goncalves
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PostPosted: 08:45 - 03 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 2004 gt comet 125 which is about the same price as the cbr and the comet runs rings round the cbr

not to mention it's a v twin!!! :D
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27yo kid
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 03 Nov 2004    Post subject: FYI Reply with quote

Just so you guys know, spoken to my dealer "just out of interest" to find out that....
to derestrict the model of GPR50 I have all I need is the race exhaust which is around £35. I'll have to tweak it a bit like air intake etc but its all pretty much that simple apparently!
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