Can't go at national speed limit on mod2

[Lord Percy]

I'm nowhere near doing my mod2 but I'm a bit concerned because I'm just gonna do it on my on 125 (not fussed about restricted licence), but my bike's top speed averages 45mph. It can get to 50, 55, sometimes, very very rarely, 60, but as an average.... just 45.

I assume that part of the mod2 will be out on a patch where I'm expected to ride at a reasonable pace, nearing the national speed limit. Will it be bad that my bike just can't do it? Particularly on hills.

I've never, ever had a line of cars sat behind me, but I jsut wonder if the examiner might think bad of me never even approaching the national speed limit, even in areas of open road where I might be expected to, for the sake of smooth flowing traffic and all that.

[Flatbadger]

So long as your examiner is aware of what your bike is capable of, I don't see it as an issue. Stay in the slow lane on a dual carriageway - he would likely see any overtaking as dangerous unless you have a tractor in front of you or something.
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[Ayrton]

What bike is it? 45 mph sounds pretty poor from any 125.
I would just let the examiner know thats why your not going fast.

[Lord Percy]

Ah right so there's a list of approved bikes for the test?! Hmm. Anybody know where I can see this list?

And yeah, 45-50 average is a joke, I wholly agree. Time for another plug for VINCE CANDELIN E TWO VINCAN MOTORCYCLES! NEVER BUY FROM HIM! TELLS YOU IT'S GREAT, SEEMS GREAT, THEN ENDS UP SHIT IN A WEEK OR TWO!

It's a suzuki GN125. I've read some user reviews and the top speed of the thing seems to vary from a respectable 60-70, down to other people who similarly say that theirs also seems to sit around the 45-55 mark, just like mine.

Maybe I should go ahead with the expense of a DAS course, hmmm. However if I can do it on my own bike, I would rather.

[janner_10]

Here the link to the page you need.

https://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@motor/documents/digitalasset/dg_197021.pdf


Maybe worth posting something in the workshop section, 45 mph does seem a little on the slow side. Have you tested the speedo accuracy with a GPS app on your hone for instance, it maybe well out.


55 I would of though its fine for the test though.
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[Lord Percy]

My bike has been in the workshop section many, many times

I intended to pass the test and then make a mission of sticking a new engine in it instead of buying a new bike. There's a 250 version of the GN so a straight swap is something I'm researching into.

Anyway that's all going off topic now.

The info in that link shows my bike as A2 acceptable, so that's good. It apparently needs to be capable of 62.5mph. Mine can do that on a long, smooth and gentle incline. So there we go, the bike is fine

In fairness I've never felt like a burden to other road users when, for example, I'm going at 50 when the limit is 60. And that's what's most important, I guess.

[Rogerborg]

Ah, Vinny, is there no bike he can't shag sideways before he palms it off on some unsuspecting victim?

Just pass, then sell the thing. Heck, sell it back to Vinny. Or set fire to it, it's probably a kindness.

Whether you pass or not is entirely up to the individual examiner. You're not going to buy a different bike though, so have a go and see what happens. Worrying about it isn't going to change the result.

[PH1L_T]

Did my test on a Hyo 125 comet.

It didn't have a great top end 60 ish (downhill/wind assist) and took a while to get there. Heavy bike/fat arse

Got a minor on the mod2 for not making good progress (or whatever the term is).

Examiner wasn't too bothered about it really.

If you can ride safely and confidently...you'll pass

[Lord Percy]

Right, yep, great stuff. I'll just go with my bike when the time comes and try to pass!

So anyway, now it's time to go off topic...

I keep seeing mentions of K&N air filters. What are they, and how can a filter make your bike so much better????!

[herulach]

[J.M.]

A good examiner should be able to tell the difference between going intentionally slow and not being able to do the speed because of the bike's limitations.

I think EasyDuz passed his Mod2 only doing about 45-50 on the NSL roads because that's all his cruiser could muster up.
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[Lord Percy]

Cheers for the info guys

Yep I'll just go on my own bike

[jetski]

my bike's Speedo says it maxes out at 75 but my phone's GPS says its doing just 55 lol. I had no idea this could be a problem. I'm booking my 33bhp test next week hopefully. pending passing my theory. I was hoping I could do this with my bike as its what I'm used to. I'm glad you brought this up so I know to mention it when booking

[Teflon-Mike]

Get on e-bay. Order:-
- One of those cheap £15 rain-suits in XXXXL.
- two or three cheap kiddies bean bags.
- Six dozen pairs of football socks
- an industrial multi-pack of gaffer tape.

In the bathroom, split open the kiddies bean-bags, and empty the polysyrene beads into the bath.

Get the socks and stuff beads into them, to make bead 'snakes'... sealing the ends with gaffer tape.

On the morning of your test; put on an old, tight, long sleeve sweat-shirt, long-jogns and football socks.

Then get a capable assistant to attach the bean 'snakes' to your under wear to mimick the flabby foulds of gross obesity.

Cover with a baggy sweat shirt and track-suit bottoms or jeans, and then the XXXXXXL rain-suit.

When you are on test, the examiner will believe that the bike is slow, due to struggling to haul such a large and heavy 'load'......

AND if you fall off?!?! Well, we might have just invented a brand new 'safety suit'!

Needs a suitably gimmicky name.... what do you reckon to; "Fat-Chance"? or Gross-Protection"? No? OK then, what about "Big & Bouncy"? some-one already uses that name? OK...what about "Bloater-Protector"?... whacha reckon? This could be the next BIG thing!
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[janner_10]

Are you drunk Mike?
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[thepuma]

I'm interested in this 'getting up to national speed limit on mod2' also.

I know for a fact on the Mod2 test by me that they take you on a fast dual carriageway for a couple of mile...now, I don't think I've ever been over 65mph on my YBR. I don't know if it will go that fast, but at 60 it feels like its being thraped .

So, if its pissing down with rain on the test and you hit the dual carriageway to find someone ahead of you doing 60mph, is the examiner expecting you to overtake? Would you get a minor mark for doing 60mph and staying behind him? I certainly wouldnt feel safe at 70mph in the wind and rain on my tiny 125.

On my CBT plus the instructor questioned why at one point when we hit the dual carriageway I stayed at 55mph and didn't overtake. Insinuating that I would be marked down for it in a test. To be honest, at that point I'd only been on the road for 2 hours on my cbt and had just bought the bike, so I didn't feel comfortable attempting an overtake at 60 when I wasn't used to the bike.

My main concern is that IF the situation arises and I feel 'obliged' to overtake to do the 'right thing' that the outside lane will be clear, I then go to overtake, but because its a 125 it takes a good minute to get to 70mph, in which time someone has zoomed up on the outside lane at 85mph and had to brake,meaning I've automatically failed my test ...for 'trying' to do the right thing.
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[jeddy11]

The test is about driving safetly and not doing anything stupid !!! The examiner knows you on a 125 and all 125 top realistic speed 55-60mph so he is not going to expect you to try to overtake a vehicle doing 60mph , 60mph is quite fast enough for a 125 or any bike really if thats the speed you feel comfortable with...

The reason for taking you on a duel carriage way is probably to check your ok at fast speeds/fast roads its not a race to the max speed limit ! as long as you have increased speed to your maximum (your comfortable with) and are not creeping along at 30/40 then that imho is what there looking for.

Indeed to try to overtake a car doing 60mph and either taking ages to get past and holding up other road users or even not getting past at all is a whole lot worse !

Driving sensibly within the limits of your bike is most important.
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[thepuma]

[chris-red]

I bet it's something silly,

Are you reving the bike out?

I remember going to my dad telling him I couldn't get faster than about 50 on my RXS100. IT was because I was changing gear to soon.

Take the bike to the redline before you change up from 3rd gear. See if you can't get a bit more speed out of it.
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[Jersum]

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Youll be fine, theyll know what the bikes capabilities are. Or buy a rs125 and shock them with 115mph

Good luck
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