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new001
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 25 Sep 2012    Post subject: Newbie rider and low confidence ? Reply with quote

Hi just started riding a ybr 125 on L plates for a few days now to get some experience.My confidence is not great i find my mind wonders and worries constantly of having a bad crash and i cant shift it for some reason it's pathetic i know.Its the usual thing we are told "bikers make good organ donors" and the awful stats for a L plate rider crashing etc just make it even worse.

Any tips on building confidence and not worrying quite so much about crashing ?
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MCW
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 25 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are NOT being pathetic. I was/am just the same. Give me a minute and I'll post the link to the thread I started with very much the same problem, there was so much help, empathy and advice.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 25 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the link to my scaredy newbie thread:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=253135&highlight=

Also if you click on the www under my sig it takes you to my blog which has got quite a bit about overcoming fear of the bike.

Good luck, you'll be fine. If I can do it, then anyone can... Smile
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 25 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does NOT follow that just becouse you have sat on a bike YOU ARE GOING TO DIE... you probably ARE going to die..... I say probably.... they say that death and taxes are the only sure things in life, but.... statistically... there are actually more human beings still alive, than have ever dies..... so I dont know...... but I suspect you might... whether a bike has anything to do with it? Thats another matter!

And theres LOADS of us that have been riding many decades that can attest we ent dead of it yet! No need to think you will be!

Starting out? LOTS of stuff to worry about. Its all new. And theres loads of stuff in your head, your imagination is working on, looking for stuff to worry about and scare you, and you haven't done enough riding yet to have any REAL experience to say, "SHUT UP, I Know what I'm Doing!" and send that little devil on your shoulder trying to scare you packing.

Stick with it; does get easier, but try and turn off that worry factory!

STOP THINKING - START RIDING!

AND?

Lessons.

Every hour of training in your first month or so of riding, I reckon is worth a day, a year or so down the line.

It will teach you stuff so you dont have to learn it all from potentially expensive or painful mistakes, which it can help you avoid.

It will help nip any 'bad habbits' in the bud, correcting stuff you are doing wrong, before they cause you any problems.

And it will help you build confidence that you DO know what you are doing, and that you are doing stuff 'right', right at the start.

Nothing like having some-one that knows what they are doing, look at what you are doing and tell you "Yeah, thats OK" rather than worrying about it.....
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 25 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the train to the other end of the country. Find a Nissan Micra. Sign its bonnet. Go home and ride, safe in the knowledge that you know exactly where to find the car that's got your name on it. Thumbs Up

Or, just ride until you either get over it or give it up as a bad idea. There's really only one person who can sort your head out.

And again for luck: bigger bikes are easier and more confident inspiring to ride, and you don't have to ride them any quicker. Tests, license, stop wasting time on your tiddler.
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new001
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 25 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
Does NOT follow that just becouse you have sat on a bike YOU ARE GOING TO DIE... you probably ARE going to die..... I say probably.... they say that death and taxes are the only sure things in life, but.... statistically... there are actually more human beings still alive, than have ever dies..... so I dont know...... but I suspect you might... whether a bike has anything to do with it? Thats another matter!

And theres LOADS of us that have been riding many decades that can attest we ent dead of it yet! No need to think you will be!

Starting out? LOTS of stuff to worry about. Its all new. And theres loads of stuff in your head, your imagination is working on, looking for stuff to worry about and scare you, and you haven't done enough riding yet to have any REAL experience to say, "SHUT UP, I Know what I'm Doing!" and send that little devil on your shoulder trying to scare you packing.

Stick with it; does get easier, but try and turn off that worry factory!

STOP THINKING - START RIDING!

AND?

Lessons.

Every hour of training in your first month or so of riding, I reckon is worth a day, a year or so down the line.

It will teach you stuff so you dont have to learn it all from potentially expensive or painful mistakes, which it can help you avoid.

It will help nip any 'bad habbits' in the bud, correcting stuff you are doing wrong, before they cause you any problems.

And it will help you build confidence that you DO know what you are doing, and that you are doing stuff 'right', right at the start.

Nothing like having some-one that knows what they are doing, look at what you are doing and tell you "Yeah, thats OK" rather than worrying about it.....
How soon after getting a 125 to practice on should i start having hourly lessons every week im 24 btw ? Also should i use my bike or the schools bike ?
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 25 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just ride your YBR. You can stick to quieter streets, industrial estates in the evenings or on weekends etc. Your confidence will grow with mileage and fear of crashing will fade away at the same time.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 25 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no substitute for time on the bike to build confidence and experience. Get on and ride - at every opportunity !
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 25 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

new001 wrote:
How soon after getting a 125 to practice on should i start having hourly lessons every week im 24 btw ? Also should i use my bike or the schools bike ?


How long ago did you do your CBT?
Do you feel you could do with a bit of a refresher?
If so, soon as you can really.
If not, well, how do YOU feel? What is 'bothering you'? Other than just "Oh my GOD! What am I DOING?"
Give yourself a little time, to 'settle' to the idea, and get over the shear 'awsomeness'....
Enjoy that by the way.... you wont feel so genuinely awed by another motorcycle ever again.... even getting on your first big bike, or stepping up to a real monsta..... they will 'awe' for sure, but never QUITE so utterly overwhelm your senses!
Dont push yourself, remember YOU are the one in teh driving seat, you go as fast or slow as YOU want to.
Go ride, somewhere quite and calm, and when you get back, make a few notes of things that you are unsure about, or are a bit of a worry.
Think about them, and have a think about what you WANT to be taught.
Dont let it grow too long... and book a first lesson, or 'assessement ride' within the month, if you can.

Do it on YOUR bike.... no point paying for bike hire if you have wheels of your own......

Take it from there.

Tell your instructor what you want to achieve, and if you are keen to learn to RIDE rather than just pass tests be CLEAR with him that you are NOT there just for test tips..... you want then to help you work on confidence control and GOOD riding technique.

Discuss, and arrange a flexible schedule of lessons to suit you both.... I'd suggest an hour or two a week or so... you dont want gaps too big or you forget what you did last lesson, and with big gap till next, dont go practice "Oh I can do it tomorrow/on the weekend" whatever kind of thing.

DO get out and practice what you are tought, have fun, little and often is good.

Make notes when you get home, or carry a note-book and jot down things that you think are worth mentioning to your instructor next lesson; something you encountered on a ride; question that occurred to you; whatever... work on them.

Six to eight weeks / lessons, you ought to be pretty much up to test standard with a pretty solid grounding and some useful skills and GOOD fundemental machine control to back it up.

Instructor ought to advice when you are ready for tests, and may suggest doing Mod 1 pretty soon after starting, maybe straight after your first lesson. Almost certainly will ask if you have your theory done, and remind you thats the first thing to get out the way and tell you to book it.

24? Question will be, do you want to test on your own bike, under 'standard; rules for 2-year restricted licence, or on a DAS bike for an unsrestricted one.

That really is your call.... and I would say, DONT make the decission too early.

Get that Theory/Hazard done, and half a dozen lessons, under your belt... then its your call.

If you want, at that point, you ought to be able to self book and do both mods on your own, on your own bike, without any major problem.

If you want to go DAS, then, grounding gained..... do a conversion / assessement lesson on teh DAS bike see how you like it.

Odds are you'll get off wide eyed "Geez THAT was SOOOO EASY!" loving it, and your little YBR will feel like a push-bike on the way home! (another reason for NOT trying a DAS bike until you are at the break-point of testing!)

If you do, and you are comfy, then, get the Mod 1 booked on the DAS bike, and do a prep-lesson for it... go do.

Carry on riding your YBR until you have Mod 2 Date, but do your weekly lessons, if you feel you need to, on the DAS bike..... Mod 2 done - job done......

Licence in your pocket, reconsider your options, and what you want to do. Do you want a bigger bike? Do you want a bigger bike straight away? Do you want to get a few more miles under your belt on the YBR? Do you want to chop it in ASAP? Do you want to do a couple of 'post test' lessons on a big-bike after you get one? Do you want to do any further training? Theres a bike equivilient of the car drivers 'Pass-Plus' but I keep forgetting what its called! And Whole gaggle of further training courses offered by schools, up to advanced rider standard, by the variouse bodies like RoSPA or the IAM.

Thing is.... this BIG puddle you have leapt into, and getting to grips with being in the water.....

Lessons can help, and whichever way you go, this first month is the most critical; straight off the slips and in the water, lets check for leaks & lists, make sure you float and dont float away... get you trimmed and rigged and ready to set sail.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 25 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike put it better but take it steady and practise practise practise. Your confidence will grow as you ride more.

Cast your mind back to the first time you had sex, it got better the more you practised Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 26 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you go around thinking of how much it will hurt when you fall off then I'm afraid your just making a rod for your own back. I am guilty of the same thoughts now and again, but to be fair they are when I am doing some stupid speed Wink Get it out of your head, ride safe and in the end you will see its not so bad. I have come off bikes a few times before I passed my test and it wasn't as expected. Your gonna die one day from something, stop worrying about it Thumbs Up
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