Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Keeway Superlight??

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> New Bikers
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

JimNotBob
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 24 May 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:17 - 24 May 2012    Post subject: Keeway Superlight?? Reply with quote

I love how these things look (the ltd one) however i can't really find much about them online in terms of reviews, anyone know if they are worth the money? anyone got one?

https://www.keewaymotor.com/motor_superlight_lim.html

I am failry new to this.
I've got my cbt booked for next week and hoping to purchase a bike soon!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

sidewinder
World Chat Champion



Joined: 24 Aug 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:54 - 24 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi jimnotbob

To be frankly honest i would not bother with buying the keeway. especially a brand new one the depreciation will be a killer also there might be a problem getting hold of spares etc..My choice would be to buy a 2nd hand jap bike which you will most probably get most of you money back on when you come to sell Very Happy .If you like the keeway then the suzuki en125 might appeal to you.

https://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/sidewinder11/motorcycle-en125-380.jpg

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201212458602187/sort/default/usedbikes/cc-to/125cc/cc-from/125cc/make/suzuki/radius/1500/page/1/postcode/sy161nq?logcode=p £1000 and spend the rest on kit insurance and training Very Happy

Good luck with your trainning Thumbs Up


Last edited by sidewinder on 19:38 - 24 May 2012; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

McfcChris94
Scooby Slapper



Joined: 15 Jan 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:02 - 24 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi there,

as your doing CBT soon my guess is you are looking for a 125

Im also in the same boat as you, but finished hunting and should be buying next week, as i dont know your budget here is a little guide Smile


NOTE: this budget is just for the bike, not including gear/insurance Smile

Under £1000 for a bike

Then the best option is a Honda CG, reliable, hold their value very well, Honda are one of the best suppliers and can simply run and run and run. Tried and tested bike and one of the best options really

Suzuki EN is the other option, they are slightly better looking (but still naked) in my opinion that is, they fetch around £800-900 depending on condition. They are good bikes as well and nicely reliable, the big thing i liked is that they have a gear indicator telling you which gear your in, which is great for learners, i would of got one but cant afford to insure it!

£1500 for a bike

Then you have 2 options as well;

Honda CBF; probably my favourite of the bunch here, but i couldnt afford it. Same as the CG really, they are a newer model so about 1500 on the dot for a second hand bike... They are holding value well as far as i can see on certain sites, and a lot of people are rating CBF's as good learner bikes too

Finally is the Yamaha YBR, basically the same as stated above, other than a fair few people do rate it along side a CG as the best learner bike, again these fetch about £1200 £1500 for various conditions ect



For me, id get a CG as they are cheap, probably one of the best learner bikes, and holding value, and some of the 00 models are quite nice to look at too! Mr. Green
____________________
CBT Passed; 13/05/2012

Current; Honda CG 125
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Elffie01
Nova Slayer



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:17 - 25 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

have to give the Thumbs Up for an EN125 as I am currently using mine while I learn !
Gear indicator is a good thing to start off with, though the damn full beam is annoying till you get used to the indicators!

Had a Yamaha SR125 before that and the EN125 feels like a 'real' bike in comparison lol Smile
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

andy-b
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 17 Feb 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:38 - 25 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Keeway Speed 125 and the only joke part of it is the name. Laughing Speedy it certainly isn't! Wink

The build quality (on mine anyway) is great and from what I have seen it rivals the (Chinese Built) Jap bike that it copies.
Personally I don't think cruisers are well suited to learn on and are reputed to be very slow but it's your choice if that is what you want.

The main agent for Keeway is Moto GB in preston and they say parts are available from stock but as nothing has gone wrong with mine yet I haven't put it to the test. Cool
They are also the agents for Cagiva, Benelli, MV Agusta, Daelim and Sym. Website link.





Andy
____________________
CBT passed 13/02/12 Theory passed 22/02/12 Mod 1 Passed 28/05/12 Mod 2 Passed 29/06/12
Current bike 59 plate Keeway Speed 125 Now sold - 1989 FZR 1000R EXUP - 1996 SLR 650 and 2003 ZX9R
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Archangel
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 08 Jun 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:07 - 27 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I right in thinking the Superlight is legal to drive as a learner, but no use for sitting the test on because of its top speed of about 50mph?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Matt-
World Chat Champion



Joined: 19 Jul 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:12 - 27 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Archangel wrote:
Am I right in thinking the Superlight is legal to drive as a learner, but no use for sitting the test on because of its top speed of about 50mph?


65Mph is what it has to do by law on test ( i think )
____________________
RIP jack (wheelie king), you will never be forgotten.
Current Bike's - Road Legal TZR 125 Pitbike, Aprilia SR50R 2010
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

symonh2000
Crazy Courier



Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:18 - 27 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think spares for Chinese bikes are as difficult to get as they were a couple of years back. It seems that a few companies have seen a gap in the market and started importing them.

The opinion on whether they offer good value though is open to debate, and your view on that will decide whether you buy one or not.

They can be variable quality wise, but seem to be improving. You could get a secondhand Jap bike which will be better built, but you never know how it was treated by its previous owners.

Learners tend to neglect bikes more than more experienced riders so used ones also have a degree of risk in that you may get a lemon.
____________________
Four strokes is two strokes too many.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Teflon-Mike
tl;dr



Joined: 01 Jun 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:20 - 27 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes... you ARE new to all this, aren't you... OK

Start Here:-
I want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do I start?

For advice on the Chinky thing, read this:
Chinese Bikes they cant be THAT bad, Surely?

You know when you see an advert for McDonalds... or even the picture above the menu? Yeah... that's Chinky-Bikes.... what you get in the box, is a bland, limp reflection that doesn't really satisfy!

So, read this and think hard:-
Recommend Me a Learner-Bike!

Meanwhile, you have to get that CBT sorted, so slightly more important, than worrying a bike you might not even WANT if you dont take to it during CBT.....
What Do I need to Have before CBT?

And so you know what you'll be getting up to on it:-
What do you DO on CBT?
____________________
My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?'
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Teflon-Mike
tl;dr



Joined: 01 Jun 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:57 - 27 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

symonh2000 wrote:
I don't think spares for Chinese bikes are as difficult to get as they were a couple of years back. It seems that a few companies have seen a gap in the market and started importing them.

I think this has been true for some years. We first started seeing Chink bikes filtering into the country about the millenium, and they were an utter liability. They were numerouse enough by about 2003/4/5 that, yes, they were supportable, but you HAD to know your onions.
These days, its getting easier. There is more stuff on offer, mostly on e-bay, and more folk are on the net and there are a lot of 'resources' (or other sufferers!) offering advice and help.

MAIN trouble though is that the bikes are constructed in China, from generic sub-assemblies, and are batch built. Hence variability in quality, that depends on what bits were avialable that batch. Which also means lack of standardisation.

They get here and that batch has been split up between gawd knows how many different suppliers and offered under however many brand names.

Newbie, gets unheard of 125 of e-bay, says Shinray on the tank... walks into a bike shop: "I need a new battery for my bike?"
"What is it?" Asks the bloke behind the counter.
Newbie says; "Shinray"
"What? Stingray? Never heard of them mate" says chap behind counter "Hang on I'll have a look in the book for you...." trailing away doubtfully. Then comes back, "Nah. Not listed. Sure we got the name right, is it a 'something' Stingray?"
"No, its a SHIN-ray" Says newbie......
"Oh... how d'y spell it? Lets look again" says parts man, and repeates the polava. Until eventually, they decide its not ion the book, and parts man says "Well, where did you get it? Maybe whoeva sells'em does parts?"
And sends Newb on thier way, empty handed.
And thats if it gets THAT far and you have a helpful parts whalla!

Of course.... some-one with a bit more savvy, would pull up outside, lift the seat, and pull the battery out, walk in and say "Here, can go do me a new one of these?"
And parts whalla has a look, goes, "Oh, 12v 9Ah hang on, I'll have a look" and ten minutes later after comparing the ratings size and shape and ratings and making sure the terminals are the right ones and right way round....." Newb might be lucky and walk out with a new battery....

Me? I'd walk in and say "Battery for a Super-Dream 125,please mate" and he'd pull one of the shelf and I'd be done in three minutes.... becouse I Know that the Shinray was the early Jailing built Honda CB125TD-J........ on grey-import!

And there's another niggle..... "Oh its a CG copy innit?"

And folk go off expecting every CG component to be like for like interhcangeable..... only the aren't all interchangeable..... some bits are, but many aren't.

Which provides a paradox:- If you know enough to live with a Chink.... you probably wouldn't buy one!

symonh2000 wrote:
The opinion on whether they offer good value though is open to debate, and your view on that will decide whether you buy one or not.

Not really, they dont provide good value, end of. Not new at least.
You buy a new £1200 Lexmoto, it will loose as much or more in the first year in value as a brand new £1200 Yamaha YBR.... ifd you are LUCKY you might not have any problem with it... but if you do, and many aren't so lucky, Yamaha comes with a good network of dealer support, and the warranty WILL pay them to fix it.
You get a Lexmoto, and live in Nothampton; breakdown, get recovered home, call dealer.... "Yeah, well, we might be able to fix it under warranty.... can you bring it into the shop?" In Peterborough!
(I don't know if that's the town, but you get the idea!)

Newb, broken bike, nearest dealer 40 miles away, how do you get the bike there?!

And if you do? Good chance that the warranty may only cover parts, not labour, IF they dont try wheedling out alltogether, telling you that its 'owner abuse or neglect'....

And your the newb..... what you going to do? even if you DONT believe them?
But if you are lucky and you avoid that kind of hassle.... you get to ride a bike thats not as fast, as comfy, or as confidence inspiring, for however long.....

Either way, its costing you more, and giving you less.

Second hand?

Well, there are bargains to be had out there, thats for sure. Bikes that have broken down 80 miles from a dealer with no way to get them there, and an owner who's balked at paying a recovery driver £150 to take it for the dealer to look at!

Bikes that have been brought home after the dealer has fobbed them off on the warranty or whatever that only need, I dont know, a new ignition barel, or handle-bar switch or something.

Bikes that have served some-one well, noever gone wrong, and gor them through tests.... and they just cant SELL to anyone!

Yeah, you can pick up a 2nd hand chink for peanuts... though usually needs fixing.... or will do....

When back to the paradox.... if you know enough about them to live with one.... you probably wouldn't buy one!

If you are going to have to do work and spend money to keep sub-standard bike on the road...... may as well buy second hand clapped out Jap..... at least SOME-ONE will give you a sensible price for it when you have done with it.... and probably STILL a nicer bike to own and ride!

symonh2000 wrote:
They can be variable quality wise, but seem to be improving. You could get a secondhand Jap bike which will be better built, but you never know how it was treated by its previous owners..

I dont think the quality of Chink bikes is improving at all. There are more 'better' models out there now, but they are also asking 'better' prices for them! Some are now as expensive or more than the budget Japs.
The cheaper utiliterian models are still lingering down in the bargain basement trying to price themselves against second hand Japs.
But where five years ago we were looking at rough CG copies with poor finish, flaking chrome and casting flash... now rather than make them 'better' they seem to simply be making them prettier.... flaking chrome is still there, casting flash is still there... just hidden by plastic cowlings that make it look more like a CBF or YBR and 'up to date'

symonh2000 wrote:
Learners tend to neglect bikes more than more experienced riders so used ones also have a degree of risk in that you may get a lemon.


Yeah totally agree.... but standard of Chinese bikes?

Buy Second hand Jap, you might still pick a ripe peach.... go buy new chinese? What looks like lime, is likely to be unripened lemon!
____________________
My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?'
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

MCW
World Chat Champion



Joined: 20 Aug 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:58 - 27 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaigi is selling a nice 125. I have no idea how to put up a picture. This is the thread though:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=255687&start=75
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

janner_10
World Chat Champion



Joined: 26 Sep 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 23:33 - 27 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, with pic

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDQ1WDU5Mw==/$T2eC16JHJHgE9n0yEY(5BQ(I,l1,Bg~~48_79.JPG
____________________
Yamaha FZS600 (Now gone to heaven) > CBR600F4i (SOLD) > '99 YZF-R1
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

SamWise72
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 16 Sep 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:54 - 28 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate of mine has a Keeway Superlight. On the one hand, even nearly 3 years old and with over 30k on the clock, it's still a pretty decent bike. Runs well and very useable, though some of the pretty shiny bits are not as pretty and shiny any more. On the other hand, supporting a lot of what Teflon says, he was literally given it for free. A colleague of his had run it every day all year for 2 years, got some sort of electrical fault with it just about the same time he decided to buy a car, and said "If you want to sort it out, it's yours". So, no reason it might not be quite useable, specially if there's a dealer in your area, but it's not going to be worth a lot of money.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

yaigi
World Chat Champion



Joined: 28 Jul 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:11 - 28 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

janner_10 wrote:


Still for sale if anyone's interested - £1650 ONO Wink
____________________
What would you do in life, if you knew you could not fail?
Currently own - Fazer 600, 2000, Red. (But no riding as baby on board atm)
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

symonh2000
Crazy Courier



Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:26 - 28 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode a YBR custom on my CBT, it was a nice bike.
____________________
Four strokes is two strokes too many.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Ribenapigeon
Super Spammer



Joined: 20 Feb 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:58 - 28 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am the only person in the world who has a WR125X hahaa.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Polarbear
Super Spammer



Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:20 - 28 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't recommend any Chinese bike for a new rider for the simple reason it will be much more maintenance intensive than a Japanese machine.

If you like going round and checking nuts and bolts are tight, if you regularly check electrical cables for chaffing and WD40- them, if you don't mind cleaning it and applying copious amounts of FS365 or AC50 then you MIGHT have a trouble free existence.

If you are like me and just want get on and ride, get Japanese!
____________________
Victory Cross Country American tractor.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 14 years, 18 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> New Bikers All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.23 Sec - Server Load: 1.27 - MySQL Queries: 13 - Page Size: 107.64 Kb