Help & FAQs    Search BCF    Members    Groups    Events Calendar
Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Tests for all new drivers!

 Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> Biking News & Rumours
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

mentalboy
World Chat Champion



Joined: 05 May 2012
Karma :
PostPosted: 18:38 - 18 Sep 2012    Post subject: Tests for all new drivers! Reply with quote
Just had an email drop into my inbox from MAG.
As most of you are by now aware the EU are pushing for a 3 stage motorcycle test setup and whilst there is resistance growing towards this it looks like we're going to be stuck with it ( or at least those of you who won't have gotten your test by 2013).
Many of you who use the roads are also familiar with the lack of driver observation when it comes to anything but another car or something bigger than them.
Mag have forwarded the following e-petition and whilst it may not be a motorcycling issue maybe if this was pushed then we may get more new drivers with better awareness skills and possibly a car driver backlash that may have some impact on the proposed motorcycle test madness. If it's good enough for us it should, in all fairness, be good enough for them! I do not believe this is intended to actually impact upon new car drivers but make them sit up and think, so following is a small extract from MAG with the petition link at the bottom.


Quote:
The last round of the trials started this week, using real 'test ready' novices to complete the new manoeuvres in a live environment. The draft report is now due before Christmas.

Just to reiterate, the idea is not to put the current Mod 1 on the public road, as has sometimes been said, but to combine the whole test on the road available everywhere, as a single event, including those manoeuvres that are necessary according to the legislation, and not all the extra ones that the DSA wanted to include, like the figure of 8.

The excruciatingly slow pace of the Review process does mean that everything won't be fixed before the new round of licence changes come into force on 19th January, but we are still getting somewhere.
The good news is that the Department for Transport are now officially challenging the EU Commission on its recent decision to change the test bike specifications as MAG outlined a month ago, and to do that they have gathered the support of Italy, Spain and the Czech Republic. If they are successful, then maybe the Training Schools who have just bought new bikes to fit the old criteria, won't have to change them all again in a year...

So finally- the active bit- a new petition has been launched in response to the frustration felt at all the hoops new riders will have to face, when car new drivers can still drive what they like. It's well written and isn't sour grapes, but rather a call for equality if road safety really is the desired outcome, and not just more to inconvenience the motorcycling community.

https://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/38877


Tl;dr - Sign this to make car drivers sit up and think about the implications of a three stage test!!!
____________________
Make mine a Corona.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :
PostPosted: 00:38 - 19 Sep 2012    Post subject: Re: Tests for all new drivers! Reply with quote
mentalboy wrote:
As most of you are by now aware the EU are pushing for a 3 stage motorcycle test setup and whilst there is resistance growing towards this it looks like we're going to be stuck with it

At the risk of incurring the Wrath of Tef, this was done and dusted in 2006 and we've already legislated for it. We're now at the stage of wondering how badly the DSA, DVLA, insurers and Plod are going to nob it up.

That petition is a joke. The whole ePetition site is a joke, mind, but if MAG are going to start having a laugh with it, those of us who do care enough to write to our "elected" "representatives" are going to be embarrassed to be associated with them.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Mushroom
Nearly there...



Joined: 30 Apr 2009
Karma :
PostPosted: 21:37 - 07 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't quite get it, every time the EU fucks up a fairly sensible way of doing things for bikers, every one points to car drivers and demands there freedoms be restricted as well.

Quote:
when car new drivers can still drive what they like.


Rather what they can afford & although there are a small number who get tuned up on there parents backs when it comes to the first car, it really is not concern big enough to promote the EU sticking its filthy claws into anything further. I understand to a point its to demonstrate that they are bias to bikers and are not doing what they are in the total interest of safety, but still..
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

janner_10
World Chat Champion



Joined: 26 Sep 2011
Karma :
PostPosted: 22:36 - 07 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
MAG guff wrote:
new petition has been launched in response to the frustration felt at all the hoops new riders will have to face, when car new drivers can still drive what they like. It's well written and isn't sour grapes, but rather a call for equality if road safety really is the desired outcome, and not just more to inconvenience the motorcycling community.


What a waste of time. I would rather them focus on enhancing what the biker has to go through rather than making the car driver go through the same farce.

Stupid petition, very petty. Sour grapes transparently dressed up as a safety concern
____________________
Yamaha FZS600 (Now gone to heaven) > CBR600F4i (SOLD) > '99 YZF-R1
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

moonzoomer
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Jul 2012
Karma :
PostPosted: 17:14 - 08 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
There are a few changes coming in in January that will effect car drivers such as the stupid rule that states you cannot carry a passenger under 21 years old if the driver of the car is under 24 years old though that will probably only apply in N.I as will the removal of the "R " plates but the introduction of the "N " plates that must be displayed by all new drivers for 2 years, thankfully the stupid 45 mph restriction on learners and R drivers is to be removed.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

.Chris.
World Chat Champion



Joined: 09 Jun 2007
Karma :
PostPosted: 18:00 - 08 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
moonzoomer wrote:
There are a few changes coming in in January that will effect car drivers such as the stupid rule that states you cannot carry a passenger under 21 years old if the driver of the car is under 24 years old though that will probably only apply in N.I as will the removal of the "R " plates but the introduction of the "N " plates that must be displayed by all new drivers for 2 years, thankfully the stupid 45 mph restriction on learners and R drivers is to be removed.


All of that only applies to Norn Iron.
____________________
Chris
1985 Kawasaki Z550F
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

moonzoomer
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Jul 2012
Karma :
PostPosted: 00:31 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thats what I said, but like the current MOT test the new changes usually filter over to GB in time.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

DoubleSided
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 03 Oct 2012
Karma :
PostPosted: 13:24 - 15 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Those e-petition things are bloody stupid. Has anything actually ever come out of any of them?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

mentalboy
World Chat Champion



Joined: 05 May 2012
Karma :
PostPosted: 14:30 - 15 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
DoubleSided wrote:
Those e-petition things are bloody stupid. Has anything actually ever come out of any of them?


No I don't suppose so. Contacting MP's directly seems to get more response and if you can get them interested in a topic it's a more likely way to get a question asked in the House.

It is however one tool that might have a bit more success if people could actually be bothered to stand up for their rights rather than just bitching on an internet forum/down the pub.

Long term it probably won't achieve anything, this govt has to cut it's spending rather than increase it. Take the proposed benefits cuts announced recently, if I've read the sums correctly they're planning on saving £10bn - which is one quarter of the interest they'll need to pay on current borrowing this year. It can't be that far off that we have no government spending, just debt servicing.
____________________
Make mine a Corona.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Calums Petition
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 26 Oct 2012
Karma :
PostPosted: 17:03 - 26 Oct 2012    Post subject: The dreaded changes Reply with quote
As most of you know there are changes to the power restrictions on bike. Help stop it by signing this petition. The more the merrier https://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/40838
____________________
Calum B
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :
PostPosted: 18:56 - 26 Oct 2012    Post subject: Re: The dreaded changes Reply with quote
Calums Petition wrote:
As most of you know there are changes to the power restrictions on bike. Help stop it by signing this petition. The more the merrier https://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/40838

https://i46.tinypic.com/10ydlhi.png
https://i45.tinypic.com/avpz0z.jpg
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 13 years, 159 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> Biking News & Rumours All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1

 
 You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 
Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.12 Sec - Server Load: 2.04 - MySQL Queries: 13 - Page Size: 73.33 Kb