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PostPosted: 21:15 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Running in tyres Reply with quote

I had a new rear fitted at the weekend due to a f*cking huge nail sticking out of it. Evil or Very Mad The people at the tyre place said not to excide 60mph and avoid aggresive aceleration for 200 miles and then gradually take it up more.

Do people follow this or is this just b*llocks to cover their backs?
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its mainly to cover there back.

And 200 miles seems alot, I have always been told 100 miles by my tyre fitters.

Though I ignore them and have fun trying to scrub it in fully as soon as I can. Very Happy

Obviosly I don't lean as much with a new tyre till I've done a few miles though. Smile
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is, that with sportier tyres they need to use a silicone release agent to prevent the tyre sticking to the mould. Only when this is worn off is the tyre up to being used properly. I have had a number of 'moments' as a result of going too hard on fresh tyres, you can tell when the coating has worn off. Take it steady for a few miles.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew a bloke who tried to wear his back tyre in by doing a burn-out outside the bike shop on a GSXR1100. The tyre bit and threw him and the bike over! Doh!
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Covered around 100 miles on it and it is no longer shiny, so I think it is time to ride properly again. Sick of taking my time. Brand new tyres scare me when the roads are wet though:evil: .

Cheers guys. Just wanted some opinions Thumbs Up Karma
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take it steady on that new tyre, 100 miles on the new tyre will scrub it in as they say, after that the grip will creep in. The WARNING on my new front tyre (not fitted yet) says:

Avoid hard acceleration, hard braking and hard cornering for the first 100 miles.

This is a Bridgestone Battlax BT45....... Should be the same for most tyres.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ride like a maniac with a pillion! It certainly worked for the guy whose pillion I was on his VFR. Hard braking, accelerating and cornering were certainly not off the menu, and his tyre was very well scrubbed in when we were done, not a millimetre of chicken strip. Shocked

Oh, and he didn't tell me he had a brand new tyre on before we started either. Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm running battlax 020 so must be a similar period surely?
I'll start to increase things now it's started to bed in. 200 miles seems extreme to me, Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:
Oh, and he didn't tell me he had a brand new tyre on before we started either. Laughing


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PostPosted: 21:44 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

On John's rear 010 on his nc30 I was happy getting my knee down after the about 5 miles that he rode it to the industrial estate.

The 020 claims to have the same compound on the sides as the 010, but I don't reckon it warms up as quickly so I'd take it slightly easier.

On track, sticky tyres wear in after a couple of laps... probably need less, but I've always been a bit cautious as you're going a bit faster on track.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wait for a dry day and get some miles under your belt, the hardest bit will be wearing in the left hand side of it but so long as you don't go for knee down in your first 10 miles then you should have no problems.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I scrubbed a full set of BT014 Battlax's in on my cbr600 after about 30 miles. They were put on with a week between the two, the rear being on first. best to be progressive with the leaning and gradually increase throttle. The BT's were that soft that after 20 miles of swerving and accelerating/slowing/accelerating, when I pulled into a petrol station the silicone stuff was peeling off the very warm tyre.

Obviously you need to take it easy on the first few miles, depending on your bike and weight. A slippery brand new tyre aint gonna like having a hundred horses forced onto it when it can't bite, and it aint gonna like leaning at speed when its just silicone between you and an off. Best thing I find is to find open space on a trunk road etc and swerve across the lane left to right for a while, combined with medium/hard throttle followed by backing off etc etc.

100 miles is a bit rash for a modern sports tyre, but baring in mind our safety guy at work sells his bike when it needs new tyres because every time he's changed a set he's crashed! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, should point out that I would take it a lot easier in the wet and to make sure you lean progressively.

In the wet you are in a bit of a catch 22 because you can't lean thanks to the tyre's state and you can't scrub them in thanks to the weather.

Whatever, if you only get progressively faster you should be fine, just keep an extra eye out for slippery surfaces in the cold months.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
Just wait for a dry day and get some miles under your belt

You'll be waiting a while then Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 27 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You REALLY dont want to run them in in the wet, appart from it takeing allot longer its a rubbish idea..

Last lot i had just went for a 100 mile ride in the peakes, did the trick nicely Wink
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 28 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scrubbing in tyres in the wet, now THATS a scary prospect! New tyres + rain = enjoy the bus to work!! Razz
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 28 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

CraigZZR wrote:
I think its mainly to cover their back.



Obviosly I don't lean as much with a new tyre till I've done a few miles though. Smile


But how do you scrub in the edges if you don't lean? I;ve always leant the bike just the same (avoiding slippy surfaces), but just avoided using a lot of throttle while leant over until i'd done a few miles.
I can't see why leaning a bike right over straight away (being careful with the throttle) is any different to doing 50 miles almost upright, then starting to lean it over - the edges won't get scrubbed until the bikes cornered anyway.
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PostPosted: 01:06 - 28 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a new rear tyre fitted today! Riding home in the wet was, er interesting! Manhole covers provided the biggest challenge, even under the slightest braking there was no bite so the back slid! Fortunately the forecast for tomorrow is dry so it will be just the leaves to contend with!
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 28 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a pair of tyres being fitted to the Benelli when it gets serviced next week, I just hope it drys up a bit before I go and pick it up! Shocked
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 28 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

What tyres did you go for ? And also curious how much your service costs... Question
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 28 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

bath of kylies wrote:
What tyres did you go for ? And also curious how much your service costs... Question


Good question - my bike (Fazer 600) originally had Dunlops on. My bike mechanic suggested a Pirelli, as it was cheaper but then put a Bridgestone tyre on it - stating that it was harder wearing and once run-in would give better grip.

I guess it depends what your main type of use of the bike is, as mine is commuting I need something that is hard wearing but ultimately I bowed to his better judgement! I know I got a very good price, for the tyre and fitting!
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 28 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you got your tyre from Buckley tyres. Whenever I bought tyres from there they told me that and had me sign a declaration that I'd heard them say it Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 28 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I did go Buckley. They always do a good job there, so I trust them. Had a tyre put on once at 'Everything but bikes' and they didn't put the wheel back on properly. Good one guys Rolling Eyes

Still taking it easy in the wet (binned one bike this year, don't want to do that again) but got a nice steady 80 today in the dry. Woah dude, dry roads!!!

Yes it is scary scrubbing in tyres when it's wet. F*ckin' nail Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 28 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonboy wrote:
the edges won't get scrubbed until the bikes cornered anyway.


If you gradually build up how much you're leaning, you're always on a bit that's scrubbed in and a bit that isn't, rather than pulling out of the shop and getting your peg down on the first roundie. Same principle as warming your tyres up really.

Though to be honest, you'd probably get away with it in the dry. Smile
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 29 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I've always found Buckley to do a good job, cheap and a nice waiting room too.
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