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Mopeds aren't "restricted "by variators, exhausts, carburetors, ignitions or ports.
They are restricted by laws that says that if they go over 35mph they aren't a moped.
Variators, carburettors, ignitions, and ports are just mechanics that are messed with to meet the legal requirements of a powered two wheeler to BE a moped, not a motorcycle.
If you don't want a moped; buy a motorbike.... its a lot simpler.
If you don't have a motorbike licence? Well, its STILL simpler to buy a motorbike.... and breaking just as many laws to ride it without a licence... valid insurance... other than described as on the registration document etc etc etc.
| bramerz wrote: | Dont smoke drugs smoke tires |
Smoking tyres on a 50  yeah, OK..... why? WHY put that in your sig? Have you ever done a real burn out? Have you actually lit up a back tyre? Let alone scrubbed one out? Do you think that such hugely aspirational mantra will endear you to older wiser bikers who don't just dream it, but live it?
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wiser bikers who don't just dream it, but live it?
Who buy decent tyres and dont wreck them 
Tbf - i'm thinking when my tyres need changing to have a go at a burnout, also thinking will my 125 be able to do it, or will i.
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| covdude wrote: | wiser bikers who don't just dream it, but live it?
Who buy decent tyres and dont wreck them
Tbf - i'm thinking when my tyres need changing to have a go at a burnout, also thinking will my 125 be able to do it, or will i. |
Donuts are a legitimate practice to take the corner off a squared tyre to eek a bit more use out of it, 'evening' the tread wear....
That's My excuse and I'm sticking to it.......
If course, laying down darkies in front of irate car drivers who don't like you 'filtering' could quite possibly be cause of them getting squared in the first place......
But, no!
I shall simply blame litre motor V4 torque and the mass transfer of more weight than an Austin Mini onto a the miniscule contact patch provided by a 140 section back tyre. It was easily over-whelmed...
750 doesn't give me any such excuses, I have to wait until they are almost down to the canvas before I can trash them.
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Bunch of spoil sports. Like you've never broken a law?
I spent the best part of a year restricted to 30mph on my TS50, it was dangerous and was ultimately a key contribution to an accident that wrote my bike off and nearly killed a good friend who was riding at my speed on his de-restricted scooter when a corsa took up both out trying to undertake on a slip road.
Of course the dickwad driver was the main cause, but at 40-50mph we would have been sitting at the same speed as the rest of the traffic, not causing an obstruction and not being a temptation for stupid manoeuvres.
To the OP, the variator and exhaust flow are the main restrictions. As with most 2T scooters they can be spruced up a fair bit with a free flowing exhaust, properly weighted rollers and a properly jetted carb. At the cost of higher maintenance and less reliability, I would expect a genuine top speed of around 50mph.
Obviously this would be riding illegally however I am sure you are aware of that. If I was 16 again and knowing what I know now I would do it.
The law is an arse.
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| matto wrote: | | c_dug wrote: | I spent the best part of a year restricted to 30mph on my TS50, it was dangerous and was ultimately a key contribution to an accident that wrote my bike off and nearly killed a good friend who was riding at my speed on his de-restricted scooter when a corsa took up both out trying to undertake on a slip road.
Of course the dickwad driver was the main cause, but at 40-50mph we would have been sitting at the same speed as the rest of the traffic, not causing an obstruction and not being a temptation for stupid manoeuvres. |
Moped are not dangerous, the inexperience of the riders make them dangerous, if those inexperienced riders ride faster they will make more of a mess when they crash.
So you got taken out by a vehicle undertaking down a slip road? So either you were in the outside lane of the slip road or already on the carriageway and not aware that a vehicle was accelerating to join the main carriageway? Methinks that with experience you would be aware of this potential hazard and would have been able to avoid the idiot and talk about his foolishness in the pub later on in the day.
Also if that Corsa hit you when you were travelling at 40-50mph you would probably be dead so be thankful you were obeying the law. |
Unsure how they are the only two possible occurrences, I can think of many ways that the collision could have happened, including the one that did which was that we were on the inside lane of a two lane dual carriage way, he came down the slip road and instead of slowing and merging into the traffic behind us, tried to speed up and squeeze down the inside of us on a narrowing slip road. I don't remember if I was aware of him coming down the sliproad or not, in hindsight I probably wasn't as I was to the right and slightly in front of my friend, so my vision up the sliproad would have been impaired by him. However regardless of if we were aware of the corsa or not, some kind of collision would have been unavoidable. The road was busy, we couldn't move right, and the fact that the cars behind us very very narrowly missed going into the back of us during the crash suggests that slowing enough to allow the corsa to merge in front would have seen us rear ended by the car behind.
I don't believe that the corsa driver would have attempted the manoeuvre if we were going at the same speed as the rest of the traffic. The police estimated he was travelling between 60-80mph at impact. Not surprisingly both mopeds were write-offs. More surprisingly though the corsa was also a write off. My friends lower back and pelvis took the brunt of the impact, he dented the roof of the car along the top of the windscreen which I believe was the majority of the damage to the car. That and the moped impaled in it's front bumper. Somehow the lucky bugger was up and walking at the scene. His only injury was a burn to his foot and a possible broken toe where his trainer came off. Nice compo nonetheless.
I do see your point that if we were travelling faster the injuries could have been much worse, I probably wouldn't have kept it upright for sure. Honestly though he shot off of the front of the car like a pool ball. Not sure it could have been much more violent an impact. Some people just get lucky I guess!
Kind of gone off on one now haven't I
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Yup, thefts, money and high mileage for the most part
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| covdude wrote: | Tbf - i'm thinking when my tyres need changing to have a go at a burnout, also thinking will my 125 be able to do it, or will i. |
Well if i can manage it on a YBR...
Although i'll admit it did need a bucket of water on the ground to get it going. Just stand up, grab the front brake like your life depends on it, rev limiter and bang the clutch out. Just dont let off the throttle or it'll grip suddenly and there's a 99% chance of you falling on your arse, breaking something and feeling very silly.
In answer to OP
https://homepage.ntlworld.com/fraser23/typhoon/typhoon.htm
Should be more or less the same engine. The pipe he refers to causing turbulence is bollocks, its an EGR system. Dumps exhaust shite back through the air filter & clogs the feck out of it with two smoke oil. Take the air filter out, clean it with petrol (should be a foam bit, take the hose off, cut in half, put a bolt to blank off both sides. DO NOT LEAVE THIS OPEN, IT WILL CAUSE GREIF. Remove the variator washer as shown in guide. Put sporty zorst on it.
Most of the piaggio 50cc scoots share the same engine, other halfs brother had a pipe off an NRG MC3 that was on the scrap truck on his typhoon. Ped would happily go off the clocks on the flat.
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Borrowed one recently, a SYM Jet 50.
I realy do think that all the "restricted mopeds are safer" lot should spend a day on one. Was a real eye opener for me tbh. Plus the general determination of EVERYONE to overtake you, regardless of doing 35-40ish in a 30 zone that i'd usually do 30 down on the GS & never had people try anything thick.
The whole, traffic light goes yellow, open throttle full, traffic light goes green, pause and then the engine spins up enough to actually get you moving seemed to irritate people a great deal too.
I'll fess up to actually enjoying myself on it though.
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