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trifty
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 10 Oct 2012    Post subject: z750/monster Reply with quote
hey guys .. i just got my bike license and ive been training on the 2012 er6n for about 3-4 months.. im getting my bike soon and is undecided between the z750 and the monster 795/796/1100evo.. the evo looks bigger and rated hp is about 100 ..a little lower than the zed.. and ive also got a good throttle control from what ive been observing myself in training..weight isnt really an issue and im about 177cm..ill use the bike for commutering and a little on the highways..roughly 200km ..300 tops..advice pls ! Very Happy Very Happy
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barrkel
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 10 Oct 2012    Post subject: Re: z750/monster Reply with quote
trifty wrote:
hey guys .. i just got my bike license and ive been training on the 2012 er6n for about 3-4 months.. im getting my bike soon and is undecided between the z750 and the monster 795/796/1100evo.. the evo looks bigger and rated hp is about 100 ..a little lower than the zed.. and ive also got a good throttle control from what ive been observing myself in training..weight isnt really an issue and im about 177cm..ill use the bike for commutering and a little on the highways..roughly 200km ..300 tops..advice pls ! Very Happy Very Happy


I've read a bunch of people praising the ER6's suspension in comparison to the Z750. Also bear in mind torque / HP curves.

IMO it's not a good idea to use a relatively premium brand bike like a Ducati as a commuter, especially one with a (however unwarranted) historical reputation for costly maintenance, but your mileage (and wallet) may vary. Also think about security when parked up at work.

And if your commuting involves a lot of town work, you'd probably be better off with a more upright seating position than something racy. Maybe you know better already, having had a long test ride. Test rides: that would be the way to go, I think.
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daemonoid
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Re: z750/monster Reply with quote
barrkel wrote:
IMO it's not a good idea to use a relatively premium brand bike like a Ducati as a commuter, especially one with a (however unwarranted) historical reputation for costly maintenance, but your mileage (and wallet) may vary. Also think about security when parked up at work.

And if your commuting involves a lot of town work, you'd probably be better off with a more upright seating position than something racy. Maybe you know better already, having had a long test ride. Test rides: that would be the way to go, I think.


Bah! I use my monster as a sports/tourer - I've done several trips from NL->UK and back despite it being a sports/commuter.

The monster already has a very upright seating position. And now they offer a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty. Servicing is surprisingly easy too.

To the OP, they're both good choices, I'd get the ducati though - its all about the torque Wink
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can't consider either without a test ride on a Street Triple....
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trifty
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
well its not gonna be my main method of commuting because i have ..its mainly for weekends and most weekday nightouts.. taken note of all the replies thank you a lot! but would they both be good choices for a beginner ? im not into the whole speed thing and im very careful on my throttle.. its more about the hobby of it Very Happy Very Happy
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daemonoid
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
trifty wrote:
well its not gonna be my main method of commuting because i have ..its mainly for weekends and most weekday nightouts.. taken note of all the replies thank you a lot! but would they both be good choices for a beginner ? im not into the whole speed thing and im very careful on my throttle.. its more about the hobby of it Very Happy Very Happy


You don't want speed except you're after a 795/796/1100 evo? You know they make a 696?

Also consider an older bike, I ride a '97 monster 750 (mainly because I bought it to strip the engine out of and never got round to it). It's better looking than the 796, about 1/7th of the price and not to far off in performance. You can pick the 600/620s up on ebay for just over a grand, as it's your first bike there's a good chance you'll change your mind or refine your tastes quickly and getting something that's already depreciated helps you then buy the next one in a year or so.
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trifty
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
i actually meant speed isn't the top of the list..yeah i know but im from Malaysia..the 696's been scrapped off and the sites here selling used 696,add a little more i can get a 795.. in malaysia we only have the 795/796..the most common the 795.. and it sucks here since ive just got my license its kinda like under "probation" and we can't test ride bikes.. sucks as hell.. but just today they just released the z800 and the new ninja 300(still 250) in my country..
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trifty
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
and btw is there any bikes thats like a zx6/cbr6 for beginners ? other than the fz1/fz6 (:
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 11 Oct 2012    Post subject: Re: z750/monster Reply with quote
barrkel wrote:


IMO it's not a good idea to use a relatively premium brand bike like a Ducati as a commuter, especially one with a (however unwarranted) historical reputation for costly maintenance, but your mileage (and wallet) may vary. Also think about security when parked up at work.


I commute on mine every day, rain or shine, and I've never had an issue - most consumables & stuff you change relatively often (oil/filter/chain/sprockets/pads) are no more expensive than any of the Japanese bikes really.

Franchised dealer labour is obviously expensive, same with any brand really.

I change the oil and filter in mine every 2k miles, but only out of preference, standard service intervals are the same as hornets/xj6s etc.

Id say the only 2 significant costs are:

Valve clearances need doing about once every 2 years, its a good chunk of labour (£250) and further than most peoples own mechanical ability will stretch.

Insurance - expect to pay at least £150/200 pa more for a monster than any of the japanese equivalents.

Not blindly defending my decision to buy something questionably practical for what I need, but its working out just fine at the moment!
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trifty
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PostPosted: 03:06 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
i see.. but would the light weight of the duc have any effects on highway riding ?
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