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Jayy
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: 3 points £60 fine or RIDE awareness course? Reply with quote

Just had the letter through the post this morning...

3 points + £60 fine or RIDE course (£95) + 7hrs (and more) fucking about

What's better to do?


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Easter Bunny
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

£90 or close to in Thames Valley run by the AA so should be a general price

If you go for the course make sure you attend as if you don't you get the points anyway and lose the course fee
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you weren't speeding why were you issued the nip? you should be able to ring up and ask about the cost of the course, as to wether it's a better option than taking the points i suppose depends on your situation. if you've only just got you licence and are under the new drivers act 6 points crap the taking the course would be a no brainer, is your riding style likely to attract 9 more points in the next 3 years leading to a ban?

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PostPosted: 11:41 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

£75 when I was offered the course.

I signed up, didn't go and never heard any more of it.

So I paid a tad more than the fine would have been, no points, no time off work and no condescending chat Thumbs Up

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Jayy
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bad, says RIDE course not speed awareness and cost £95 with 7 hours classroom time.

Now I've read that, I would rather take 3 points and £60 fine than have a copper/coppers lecture me for 7 fucking hours.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the RIDE course.
It's the lesser of 2 evils Thumbs Up
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Jayy
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

panrider_uk wrote:
£75 when I was offered the course.

I signed up, didn't go and never heard any more of it.

So I paid a tad more than the fine would have been, no points, no time off work and no condescending chat Thumbs Up

Mark


Interesting...

To those who have been, I assume they mark you down as attended or something? Wonder how you got away with that?
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Jayy
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Take the RIDE course.
It's the lesser of 2 evils Thumbs Up


It would cost me far more than £95 & 7 hours (+ travel time & petrol) of my time though. Are they going to pay me my day rate for being self employed? Nope...


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PostPosted: 11:46 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you weren't speeding, why aren't you going to challenge it at court? Unless the points/fine is for something else?
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZX Jay wrote:


Now I've read that, I would rather take 3 points and £60 fine than have a copper/coppers lecture me for 7 fucking hours.


That was my thought. Speeding points have never affected my insurance premiums.

I guess a lazy admin person marked me down as being there Smile

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Jayy
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mistake mate, check my second post.

" You were the driver of motor vehicle **** *** at the time of the alleged offence - Overtake stationary/moving vehicle on approach to zebra/pelican/puffin crossing contrary to S25(5) RTRA 84 ZPPPCR 97 at *********************, United Kingdom on 18/07/2012 at 19:19 hours "

The following are available to you:

Attend a course as part of the What's Driving Us Scheme (AKA THE MONEY MAKING SCHEME)

Accept conditional offer
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Jayy
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have since been back to where it happened and my suspicious were confirmed at the time that there was an "eye in the sky" dome camera on a huge pole way up which would have had a perfect view of the whole thing.

I have no doubt PC Jobsworth will have that footage in the event I tried to contest what he said.

Just to go over what happened again...

Was with a mate, he was several cars behind me, came up to a line of crawling traffic doing about 10mph, filtered past a line of 6 cars to the front and rode off.

Unknown to me, a traffic copper had just been in the row of shops and crossed the zebra crossing on foot, on his own, heard my engine as I went to over take, signaled for me to stop (which I didn't as I didn't see him), he notes my reg down and turns up at my house 20 mins later and bollocks me.

I didn't realise I had done the filter on a zebra, was too busy concentrating on the on coming cars and keeping close to filtering.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many points do you have on your licence?

Will the extra points increase your premiums for the next 4yrs?
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Jayy
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

0 points... these will be my first ever 3 points Very Happy

I have successfully avoided getting points in my 12 years of having a license.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

being self employed with a clean licence id just swallow the points, if you weren't self employed id be likely to go to court and see if the officer actually turns up to give evidence, often enough they don't and if he does you can always plead guilty and take the points before going in and end up with the same punishment, no point if it costs you a days wages though

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PostPosted: 13:09 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought filtering was Legal?

I do this pretty much every night through Dunstable High street!
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellbound wrote:
I thought filtering was Legal?

I do this pretty much every night through Dunstable High street!

It is, but not over pedestrian crossings - or the approach to them. The zig zag lines mean no overtaking or parking.

edit; No passing the lead vehicle apparently.
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to do in excess of 80k miles a year, obviously not always in places I knew. Points and fines were an occupational hazard that, given the revenue raising nature of the exercise, were sometimes hard to avoid. I would suggest that, if offered a driver awareness course, do it and save your points in case you need them. I did one, it lasted 3 hours. Basically I got a sit down for a few hours, some tea and biscuits and a chance to perv a few men in uniform...
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My own fault, I did what he said I did but didn't realise at the time.

I'm just going to take the 3 points and £60 fine, it's not worth my time to go on the course thinking about it.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCW wrote:
I used to do in excess of 80k miles a year, obviously not always in places I knew. Points and fines were an occupational hazard that, given the revenue raising nature of the exercise, were sometimes hard to avoid. I would suggest that, if offered a driver awareness course, do it and save your points in case you need them. I did one, it lasted 3 hours. Basically I got a sit down for a few hours, some tea and biscuits and a chance to perv a few men in uniform...


I don't need my bike for my job, although it would be a shitter to lose my license, as I would have no bike but considering this is the first 3 points I've ever had, I think I can successfully avoid 9 more points.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I attended the RiDe course in 2009 for Careless driving (overtaking on junction). It was that or 6 points and I was still under new drivers act at that point.


The lecturer I had was sound, they are NOT coppers - far from it. Easy going, relaxed atmosphere in the room and we were gone by 2.00pm.


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PostPosted: 19:05 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only had Speed awareness and that was 3 hours with a group of old people and a sound guy taking it -
£95 plus travel is alot, but Id rather do that then have 3 points on my licence for X ammount of years Thumbs Up
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