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angryjonny
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Dear Royal Fail Reply with quote

Dear Royal Fail

That is the second time I have witnessed you fail to deliver an item because it is a few millimetres bigger than what you consider a "letter" when the item in question is clearly and obviously a greetings card. Does it not occur to you that on whatever happy (or unhappy) occasion is being marked by the delivery of said card the recipient may be somewhat disappointed to receive a demand for £1.09 to cover "9p insufficient postage", only to have the card delivered to them, battered and tatty a week after the occasion being celebrated is a dim and distant memory, having circumnavigated your unfathomable website to pay the fine they accrued by simply being sent something.

Is it any wonder that Joe Public is making an increased point of finding ways send greetings to their loved ones that don't involve employing your shoddy, slapdash, overpriced services which are likely to involve them being blackmailed for return of their items? You have five years left before technology evolves enough to render your entire operation redundant. It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of joyless jobsworth bastards.

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PostPosted: 18:47 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love it when people chase me down the street with those cards Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Send this to their head office. . . .on an oversize thank-you card that you've put insufficient postage on Wink


I agree tho, they are a shower of witless fcuk-nuggets Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

While i dont disagree with the fact the item is overweight and therefore there is a charge, its a business after all, not a charity.

I dont agree with the £1 handling fee, i wouldnt say its £1 of work.

The sorting machine weighs the items in the mail centre and slaps the insufficient postage sticker on it.

Then a PHG or office worker writes out the card for the postage and gives it to postman to deliver.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't the £1 that's the problem. Is the fact that because your greetings card has a badge on it or is square when Royal Fail reckons a letter should be rectangular, even though you need it to get there in time for the actual occasion, Royal Fail hang on to it for a whole smegging week for the sake of 9p.

I'm getting married next year. Wouldn't be surprised if I end up delivering all the invitations by hand. I'd like to ensure they actually get there.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Re: Dear Royal Fail Reply with quote

angryjonny wrote:
bunch of joyless jobsworth bastards.


cornish wrote:
shower of witless fcuk-nuggets


I've worked in the postal service, and I have to disagree.

I think I would be better qualified than most, in describing our fine paper shifting brothers and sisters as overgrown schoolkids who are ignorant of everything except cheap aftershave and their own farts.

And that includes the women.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Royal Mail are a bunch of money thieving cnuts! We have recently changed over from the 'Tracked' service to the Royal Mail 'next day tracked' service.

After 50% of our customers complaining their item had not arrived the next day I called them up - turns out that only 90% of the 'next day' tracked mail actually arrives the next day! Its a disgrace!
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:
After 50% of our customers complaining their item had not arrived the next day I called them up - turns out that only 90% of the 'next day' tracked mail actually arrives the next day! Its a disgrace!


So that's a minimum 5% better than the overnight companies expect to deliver. Your point is ?
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Royal Mail are a bunch of money thieving cnuts! We have recently changed over from the 'Tracked' service to the Royal Mail 'next day tracked' service.


There is actually no difference here, they come in and are delivered with the normal tracked items, you have been mis-sold.

Only real next day delivery is 'Special Delivery' which is £
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never had a problem with Royal Mail to be honest. Sold and bought over a thousand things on the internet and they've always arrived in good time.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Letter
Length: 240mm max
Width: 165mm max
Thickness: 5mm max

Weight upto a 100g


Large letter (known in the business as a 'flat' , magazine size)
Length: 353mm max
Width: 250mm max
Thickness: 25mm max

Weight upto 750g although on a pricing increase scale as weight increases.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to have loads of LoveFilm DVDs go missing on their way to me (never on the way back) and that didn't bother me as much as it was clearly just one rogue postie nicking them and there's always going to be a percentage of dishonest scumbags in any organisation.

But this policy of keeping items a week for the sake of 9p (even if in this particular case the surface area of the item was smaller than "letter" allows, it was just a few mm longer in one dimension) and the viciousness with which it's enforced - well that's a corporate thing. That's a conscious thing that Royal Fail have decided they're going to do to their customers. I don't want to be one of those customers. Shame that they've got the monopoly or they'd be out of business tomorrow. Anyway, they'll be out of business by 2020 so y'know, patience Jonny.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

angryjonny wrote:
Shame that they've got the monopoly or they'd be out of business tomorrow..


Not any more, i think it was 2005 this was changed.

Although RM are the only logistics business with the infrastructure in place for D2D delivery.

Have a look in the right hand side of your mail the next week.

I bet 75% will say TNT mail, UK MAIL etc (these are other mail companies )

Although RM deliver these items, they dont profit from them, infact they actually lose money on some.
Since the market has opened up to competitors RMs profits have falled gradually most years.

Hence WHY RM is making such huge cuts and price hikes, because they ARE going out of business.

Albeit very very slowly, and at a cost to the taxpayer being publicly owned.

Which is why there is push for privatisation now.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monopoly on domestic letters, then. I can't go elsewhere. And since postie delivers my bills regardless of whether they're UKmail or whoever, Royal Fail presumably get a slice of it.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
shereen wrote:
After 50% of our customers complaining their item had not arrived the next day I called them up - turns out that only 90% of the 'next day' tracked mail actually arrives the next day! Its a disgrace!


So that's a minimum 5% better than the overnight companies expect to deliver. Your point is ?


My point is that we rarely had any problems with the courier service we used to used. We are getting problems every day with the tracked next day service!


Wave2K - The tracked service is sold as a 2-3 day service. Next day is supposed to be next day....... So you have just proved they are thieving cunts? Neutral
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 16 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew wrote:
shereen wrote:
Royal Mail are a bunch of money thieving cnuts! We have recently changed over from the 'Tracked' service to the Royal Mail 'next day tracked' service.


There is no such thing as a 'Next day tracked' service from royal mail, unless you are talking about 'Special Delivery' (which Wave mentions)

If you use 'Special Delivery' and it doesn't arrive when it is suppose to (next day, before noon, before 9am) then you are refunded the postage money.

Sending a package 1st class and adding tracking to it does not guarantee next day delivery.


I know the services that royal mail offer......... You are wrong because there is such thing as the 'next day tracked' service. I'm not talking about special delivery.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 17 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shereen, please provide link to evidence?


https://www.royalmail.com/delivery/business-delivery-options-uk

Not there, only thing is Special Delivery, and what is listed as Next day is only first class, which is 1 to 2 days and clearly says so.
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 17 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="shereen"]My point is that we rarely had any problems with the courier service we used to used. We are getting problems every day with the tracked next day service! /quote]

So why did you change provider.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 17 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhilDawson8270 wrote:
Shereen, please provide link to evidence?


https://www.royalmail.com/delivery/business-delivery-options-uk

Not there, only thing is Special Delivery, and what is listed as Next day is only first class, which is 1 to 2 days and clearly says so.


Lol. Fail........ Laughing

Look at the second chart down from the link you provided:

https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/Untitled-5.jpg

We changed providers because they put their rates up and it was too expensive.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 17 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:
So you have just proved they are thieving cunts? Neutral


tut tut young lady, go wash your mouth out Wink
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 17 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to be the only person that has never really had issue with royal mail. Everything gets to me quick and my postie is lovely. She (by priory arrangement) signs recorded delivery stuff and pops it through the door Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 17 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I bought a satnav on ebay on Monday, it said it would arrive Tuesday/Wednesday, Caught posty yesterday ( Tuesday) but she didn't have the package. Asked her to post it through the open window when she gets it as I'm on nights. Today she has posted it through the widow.

Ebay= Item as discribed and at the price I thought it should be.
Royal Mail= Item delivered within said time limit.
Posty= Did as I requested in delivering the parcel.

They say things always go wrong in 3s. So that is three things I can't whine about.
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 17 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

angryjonny wrote:
Royal Fail presumably get a slice of it.


Most of the time RM actually lose money on these items, but RM have to delivery them under recent regulation from the postal regulator for fair trading in the industry.

IMO the cuts being made within RM to counter are too deep and its affecting the speed and reliability of the mail delivery to your door.

Just one example is getting Nigel Mugubeewoo fresh off the boat from Nigeria to delivery your post with no training and no background checks.

But it depends what area you are, some use these 'casual workers' some dont.

If you post delivery is crap, ill guarantee you thats why.
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