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Harvey Mushman
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: CBT Resit Reply with quote

Hi all. I've been lurking for a while and decided to join after sitting the CBT today. Well, I have to go back and redo the road run Sad The instructor said it wasn't anything drastic I had done, but just not consistent enough with road positioning and gear changing. Said I was too long on the clutch and had made a bad habit of hovering my hand over it. Did the U turns a few times. All but 1 where fine. Emergency stops I did 3 times. Seemed all right to me and nothing said of them afterwards. Never stalled all day and never did anything major wrong. Just a bit miffed as I've read about horror stories and folk still getting their certificate. Didn't have any bike experience until today and seemed to pick it up OK. I've got complete faith in the instructors and will go back for the road run soon but it's not very good for the confidence. If I'm not ready, then I'm not ready. But for a 30 year old male with 10 years car driving with NO incidents, it's been a bit of a downer Embarassed
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds extremely harsh.

Also sounds like the instructor is treating it like a mod2....jesus, the cbt is just meant as a very basic training day and as long as youre not careering off the road or constantly stalling then the cbt instructors should be passing you.

If the extra day is free then fair enough, but if they are charging you then i smell a money making rat.

Chin up, dont let it get to you....sounds like your instructor was on a power trip.

If you have to pay then personally id find a different school.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did it with 2 other guys that were in their 40's and had years of illegal road driving under their belts. From the get go it was obvious that I was labelled the 'inexperienced one' as I told the truth about my driving history (pretty much nil). The instructors were great with me in the morning and I can honestly say I was only a little more rusty than the others. Like I said before, no stalling, no uncontrolled lunges or anything drastic. In the afternoon I got 2 instructors and the other 2 guys got 1 instructor. 1 of my instructors was undergoing training to be an instructor himself. Like I said previous, it was road positioning and unsmooth gear changes that seemed to be their main gripe. Nothing drastic. But hey, I can accept it. I just know that a few more hours on my own and I would have been fine. I forgot to mention that I missed a life saver check when passing a parked car and when he radio'd about it I then did it. Way past the car. Think that miffed him too.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, the resit is free. I only have to pay £15 bike hire. I also only have to do 'Module E', the road run. Not the full days course again.
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As if today hasn't been bad enough, I have been given the moniker of 'L Plate Warrior' by the BCF. Like a knife through the heart Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day surely for the sake of a few hours its better to be safer on the road.

Good to see that not all schools are just handing out certificates to whoever pays the price whether they're ready for the road or not,
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I surprised they didn't say you was up to standard. I spent most the day on my CBT getting bollocked for not doing life savers, shoulder checks, bad positioning and various other bad shit. I met the standard and went on a couple months later to pass my MOD1 and 2 first time. Don't let it get you down, you will get it sorted and it will install confidence in yourself making you a safer rider most likely. Wink
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvey Mushman wrote:
If I'm not ready, then I'm not ready. But for a 30 year old male with 10 years car driving with NO incidents, it's been a bit of a downer Embarassed


Harvey Mushman wrote:
From the get go it was obvious that I was labelled the 'inexperienced one' as I told the truth about my driving history (pretty much nil).



Have I missed something here? Confused
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't need to pay any money.

I stalled my bike, forgot indicators and hit a parked bus and got my certificate Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi s1h. Your logic I can accept. There are loads I could have did better today. Bit easier on the throttle at times, better safety checks, better road positioning, smoother gear changes, better cornering. It's just the fact that I came out without any major incidents that disheartens me. I know from even reading a few sites/forums that folk have done worse and passed. I only want the CBT just now to get some learner miles in me. I am in NO rush to pass the Mods. I have good faith in the driving school but feel like a prat today.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Shouldn't need to pay any money.

I stalled my bike, forgot indicators and hit a parked bus and got my certificate Laughing


Actually I forgot that, I stalled my bike pulling out onto a roundabout on my CBT Confused
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

qb78 wrote:
Harvey Mushman wrote:
If I'm not ready, then I'm not ready. But for a 30 year old male with 10 years car driving with NO incidents, it's been a bit of a downer Embarassed


Harvey Mushman wrote:
From the get go it was obvious that I was labelled the 'inexperienced one' as I told the truth about my driving history (pretty much nil).



Have I missed something here? Confused


Sorry I meant motorcycle driving history which is nothing apart from a dirt bike over a few weeks one summer in 1995!
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case, this.

thepuma wrote:
Sounds extremely harsh.

Also sounds like the instructor is treating it like a mod2....jesus, the cbt is just meant as a very basic training day and as long as youre not careering off the road or constantly stalling then the cbt instructors should be passing you.

If the extra day is free then fair enough, but if they are charging you then i smell a money making rat.


I also have quite a few years driving experience but had no biking experience before my CBT.
My instructor explained to me that the whole purpose of the exercise was to find out if I was going to take in instruction and be safe on the road.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at it another way: £15 for another 2 hours of on-road tuition is a steal.

They're losing money on you, so they really are doing it for your benefit. Remember, you're paying for training (and a bit of assessment), not a test.
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvey Mushman wrote:
I did it with 2 other guys that were in their 40's and had years of illegal road driving under their belts. From the get go it was obvious that I was labelled the 'inexperienced one' as I told the truth about my driving history (pretty much nil). The instructors were great with me in the morning and I can honestly say I was only a little more rusty than the others. Like I said before, no stalling, no uncontrolled lunges or anything drastic. In the afternoon I got 2 instructors and the other 2 guys got 1 instructor. 1 of my instructors was undergoing training to be an instructor himself. Like I said previous, it was road positioning and unsmooth gear changes that seemed to be their main gripe. Nothing drastic. But hey, I can accept it. I just know that a few more hours on my own and I would have been fine. I forgot to mention that I missed a life saver check when passing a parked car and when he radio'd about it I then did it. Way past the car. Think that miffed him too.


If thats all you did wrong then he should have passed you. My god, youd probably pass a mod2 with so few errors.

You say there was an instructor trainer? Sounds to me that he failed you to show the trainer that he doesnt just pass anyone. You were the unlucky one im afraid
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Look at it another way: £15 for another 2 hours of on-road tuition is a steal.

They're losing money on you, so they really are doing it for your benefit. Remember, you're paying for training (and a bit of assessment), not a test.


When you look at it like that, then I suppose you've got a point. I just wish all these niggles could have been ironed out at the start of the road run. Then I would have been a true 'L Plate Warrior'!
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepuma wrote:
Harvey Mushman wrote:
I did it with 2 other guys that were in their 40's and had years of illegal road driving under their belts. From the get go it was obvious that I was labelled the 'inexperienced one' as I told the truth about my driving history (pretty much nil). The instructors were great with me in the morning and I can honestly say I was only a little more rusty than the others. Like I said before, no stalling, no uncontrolled lunges or anything drastic. In the afternoon I got 2 instructors and the other 2 guys got 1 instructor. 1 of my instructors was undergoing training to be an instructor himself. Like I said previous, it was road positioning and unsmooth gear changes that seemed to be their main gripe. Nothing drastic. But hey, I can accept it. I just know that a few more hours on my own and I would have been fine. I forgot to mention that I missed a life saver check when passing a parked car and when he radio'd about it I then did it. Way past the car. Think that miffed him too.


If thats all you did wrong then he should have passed you. My god, youd probably pass a mod2 with so few errors.

You say there was an instructor trainer? Sounds to me that he failed you to show the trainer that he doesnt just pass anyone. You were the unlucky one im afraid


That was my first thought too! But I must have gave him too many silly mistakes that could have jeopardised his own position that he had no choice!
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know someone that came off.. twice Laughing

And got the cert.

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PostPosted: 20:06 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow on my CBT i wound up on the pavement at a junction next to my instructor and still got the cert.

had a good laugh about it though afterwards.
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually_Wrong wrote:
wow on my CBT i wound up on the pavement at a junction next to my instructor
Laughing

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PostPosted: 20:33 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

meh, was first few minutes out on the road, the cross junction was the first junction and it had traffic lights, pulled on the throttle instead of braking.

havent done it since so not gunna complain.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvey Mushman wrote:
As if today hasn't been bad enough, I have been given the moniker of 'L Plate Warrior' by the BCF. Like a knife through the heart Evil or Very Mad

Don't worry about that either...a few more posts & a few more days and you'll 'graduate' Wink
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your instructors are doing teh right thing by you.

They obviously take the CBT training responsibility seriously and want to ensure you are safe on the road before you are let loose by yourself.

The instructors that issued the CBTs to people that went into buses or came off are not doing them any favours !

What happens if the next time they are on the road by themselves they end up under the bus or a lorry !
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spy wrote:
What happens if the next time they are on the road by themselves they end up under the bus or a lorry !


Poor obs.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 20 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spy wrote:
I think your instructors are doing teh right thing by you.

They obviously take the CBT training responsibility seriously and want to ensure you are safe on the road before you are let loose by yourself.

The instructors that issued the CBTs to people that went into buses or came off are not doing them any favours !

What happens if the next time they are on the road by themselves they end up under the bus or a lorry !


I suppose it's posts like this that puts things into perspective... But still... Embarassed
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