Fleece over leathers

[Fifteen15]

Any safety hazard in this? I was thinking of getting a windproof fleece to go over my leather jacket just to keep that bit warmer. However, I read somewhere that in a slide they can grip/dig into the tarmac and flip you. Is there any truth in this? Anyone heard of this happening?
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[fozzym]

Yeah better to put the layers under the leathers, but often this means have a winter set in a bigger size. I always put one over though.

[krarkol]

I'd imagine it would just shred and wouldn't be a problem?

[Teflon-Mike]

Used to wear jeans & ski-jacket over zip together 2into1 piece......
Would wear rain-suit over that.

Bottom line is, you fall of, IT GONNA HURT....

Try not to do it!

Myriad possibilities, chances & flukes, of an accident, REALLY what you wear does NOT alter your chances a huge deal.

Leathers and crash-hat are last line of defence, when all else has failed. Primary protection comes from seeing danger and not going there, or recognising danger and getting the fuck out of it.

Dress for SURVIVAL, not for Disaster.....

Warm, so you'r attention is on the job of riding, comfortable and unconstricted so you can work at riding.... and IF you come off? Well, anything that might limit the possible harm, so much the better, but it STILL gonna hurt!

In an off? fleece gripping tarmac?!?! Yeah. I'd be slightly more worried whether there was a truck or a lamp-post in my tradjectoty that was garanteed to mash bones, more than whether a fleece might put a bit of top-spin on my roll!

Meanwhile leayers are good, more thats between you and the road, offering padding against impact or just 'stuff' to get worn away before skin, has to have some potential use, but NOTHING is garanteed, when you come off, its pretty much in the lap of the norns what's going to happen; and perversity of murphey sees enough complete numpties come off taking stupid risks and walk away, while more diligent fold with all the right kit, riding well within limits, coming out far worse off....

So, try your best not to crash in the first place, use your head to not get into trouble, and dress as apropriately as you can, but dont compromise comfort or control JUST for some illusionary extra measure of crash mitigation, and HOPE for the best!
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[Rogerborg]

How far are you planning to slide on a UK road before hitting something?

Risk averse? Why ride a bike?
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[UnspeedySam]

This time of year I'm wearing my medium frank thomas textile jacket which has always been a bit big on me (I'm tall and thin...) with a fleece underneath it and if needed a hein gericke plastic over-jacket on top of that. As it gets colder I dare say I could cram another fleece under that for extra warmth.

Bottom line is, I wouldn't be too concerned about this gripping rubbish but more about it getting soaked. Buy a slightly too big textile jacket on gumtree for £20ish, maybe a motorway worker waterproof hi-viz coat to go over that and put your layers under the jacket.
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[evoboy]

Done trackdays, ridden 10's of thousands of miles and crashed a few times with a fleece over my leathers.

No issue. Other than the fleece being ruined when it hits the 'mac.
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[stinkwheel]

Having fallen off in a fleece doing a ludicrously slow speed, I can confirm that they shred into bits almost instantly.
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[Paullec]

As above fleeces shred within seconds of hitting tarmac.

[Andrew122]

[c-m]

What you wear is likely to have an impact on your safety.

All other things being equal, there is "risk compensation" to contend with.
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[bazza]

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[_Iain_]

Crashed with a hoodie over the top of my two piece leathers.

Jacket survived fine, not a scratch till the feking medics cut it off me (despite pointing out that my neck was already in the neckbrace & that my arms were fine & moved alright etc) The hoodie i have absolutely no idea what happened to that. I know it got cut off me, but it wasnt in the bin bag of shredded leathers i left hospital with....i'll assume it wasnt all that bad if they had to use scizzors to remove it. The trousers? Bearing in mind the leathers hit the tarmac straight on the knee protector (whereby it had a double layer & a CE armour pad thing underneath) Well they ripped all the way open on impact.


I diddnt slide, more just bounced & rolled from what i remember, and that was at approx 50mph when i lost the back end of the bike. The interesting bit was that my HG backpack had survived with a thumbnail sized hole in the outside, as had all the cans of monster, and as had my iFail. Would reccomend those backpacks to anyone!

Point is, make your own call. But it aint gonna grip anymore than a textile suit would, and gripping is good cause it stops you sliding over the white lines and under a bus. Warmth wise, textiles w/thermal lining fitted. Get waterproof ones & wear jeans, tshirt & wooly jumper under that. Cheap & it just works.


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[The Tot]

If you want to keep warm

1) get yourself a kidney belt. You'd be amazed how much heat is lost from your torso through your abdomen! Hence why I feel one piece suits or zipped textiles are good because they limit updraft

2) get yourself compression layers... actually, make that 3! Nike compression shirts (I usually have 2 long sleeves on top of on short sleeve) will provide you with the necessary insulation. Get yourself to a sportsdirect store, they're £15 each. I've got loads since I do a lot of running and training. I've tried other brands but they're a bit looser. You don't need to spend £30 on a north face or helly hansen one.

3) I've always worn hoodies over my leathers... It gives me that rude boy cool look! One-piece hoodies without the zip is great because they prevent the wind from getting to the leather's zips.

In fact, when I bowl into work in winter, people assume that I rode my BMX into work instead of the blade... i.e. jeans and hoodie.. little do they know I'm wearing Sartso kevlars with my alpinestars race jacket under my hood... It pays to be cool
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[multijoy]

If you're after cheap base layers, the UniQlo 'heattech' ones are pretty good for a tenner a throw. Not especially graceful if you're of ample girth, but anything tight is going to have that risk!
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[Ol]

Nothing to do with safety, or trying to keep warm - but 90% of the time I'll ride with a long sleeved T-Shirt over my leathers, as I find a lot of the time when I get home the tshirt is covered in dead fly's / wasps / Dirt kicked up from cars in front etc and its a millions times easier taking a tshirt off and throwing it in the wash than trying to clean fly guts out of the creases in my leathers
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[scorps]

My sister bought me a snowboard designer fleece years ago saying it would be warm up in Scotland, I have worn it over my leathers on many occasions, I may look like a hairy silver back gorilla in it but it makes a load of difference.
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