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PostPosted: 22:39 - 22 Oct 2012    Post subject: Painting Bottom Course of House Bricks? Reply with quote

Hi,
Been Brassic i have to tackle a lot of the jobs on my house following guides, forum advice etc.

I'm currently working on the brick work that runs below the Slate Damp Proof Course. Although the bricks themselves are not spalled the pointing is pretty knackered so i have been removing and re-pointing.

The previous owners appear to have painted this lower course of brick. I was thinking of scrubbing the old paint back, weather sealing the bricks then painting over the top with black masonry paint. My concern is that weather sealing and painting won't allow the brick to breath and cause damp problems in the house? Can any one clarify this for me ?

I've looked on Google but get mixed answers. Some say its ok to paint others say it will cause issues.

Cheers in advance,
Shaun R.
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PostPosted: 06:54 - 23 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No real need to paint it unless the bricks are extremely porous.
Just repoint if the pointing's had it.
If you do want to paint for aesthetic reasons then use a standard water-based masonry paint which will still allow the bricks etc to breath.
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 23 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bearing in mind that you are below the damp course it doesn't really matter what you coat them up with. Anything you put on there serves only a cosmetic purpose, so long as you stay below the slate. Smile
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 23 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no such thing as rising damp.

Paint what you want.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 23 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is no such thing as rising damp.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damp_(structural)

Reading about it there, it sounds like it is pretty controversial. I've had damp issues in the past, and didn't know there was such a divide of opinion.

In my house, they had rendered over the damp course, thus creating a bridge between the bricks above and below it. This did seem to be causing damp issues near a drain where it appeared the water was getting sucked up the wall. I chiselled it all off to a layer of bricks above the damp course and it seemed to sort it.

What is the damp proof course for if not to stop moisture transferring upwards from the ground?
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 23 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
There is no such thing as rising damp.



Tell that to Leonard Rossiter.

Actually, don't - what with him having been dead for nearly 30 years, I doubt he's that likely to reply.

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PostPosted: 18:57 - 23 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,
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Thanks for the advise. Yes it is purely aesthetic Very Happy The bricks although not in bad nick have been painted before so look unkempt now the paints started to fade and peel.

Cheers,
Shaun.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 23 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it blue brick like soldiers . there a waterproof brick . clean them up with brick acid diluted and a wire brush . and dont get it in your eyes its ghey

edit* ok i just read the rest of your post . that paint will be fine . i dont do much painting usually just the building of . but i cant see any problems in using that . is the wall double skinned
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 23 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What did they paint it with? If your mortar below the slate course is rotted and above is not then it's probably damp that's caused the martar to fail. I would probably re-point the courses then paint the wall with RIW to act as a damp proof membrane.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 23 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just had a thought if your worried about it you could get mason bit and drill a a few holes out for some small pvc pipe to act as breathers above the first or second course depending on your drainage outside . or you could chisel your perps out and put a vented brick in where you think best .

https://www.heidelbergcement.com/NR/rdonlyres/37044005-08D1-4C39-AF43-35F33635E2A1/0/air_brick_630.jpg%20
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 24 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
There is no such thing as rising damp.



Moisture will rise to about 1.3 metres, guess that why it's called rising damp and the need for a damp course (barrier). If there's no damp course then the only way keep it at bay is a barrier applied to the damp area to prevent it from 'coming through' into the room.

All else is hydrostatic (water) pressure; leaking pipes, rainwater and so on. That's my take on it anyway.

With regard to treating brickwork below a damp course, i wouldn't bother, it wont really achieve much. Ascetically perhaps a coat of paint or some silicone based product might help it to look nice for a bit.
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