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Efes123
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 25 Oct 2012    Post subject: Now I know why my Suzuki wasn't starting Reply with quote
Bet you haven't seen one of these before
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 25 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
No idea but that postcode is screaming 'send me tampons and man nappies' Laughing
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Efes123
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 25 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's what's left of the inside of the starter motor.

And that's not my postcode, but feel free, I'm sure they'll appreciate it Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 25 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have seen that before, But as I offen refurb starters.....

Did it spin over or just click? I bet it made a lovely noise if it still span.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 25 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
It actually spun over, then stopped. I then spent a day looking for a bad earth, as that seemed to be the internet advice on 'a click from relay' Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 25 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Efes123 wrote:
It actually spun over, then stopped. I then spent a day looking for a bad earth, as that seemed to be the internet advice on 'a click from relay' Crying or Very sad


To be fair, 9 times out of 10 that's reasonable advice. Wink

A multimeter is your friend in cases like this - you could have proved the solenoid by measuring the voltage at the starter motor terminal when the starter button was pressed and that would have led you straight to the motor itself.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 25 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
AlexW wrote:
I have seen that before, But as I offen refurb starters.....

Did it spin over or just click? I bet it made a lovely noise if it still span.


Question for you. What's the best stuff to reattach a magnet that's come loose from the housing?

I've got a lawnmower with a starter motor that has that problem. I tried epoxy after cleaning and keying both surfaces and clamping them together overnight but it came adrift again after a couple of uses.
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Efes123
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 25 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
you could have proved the solenoid by measuring the voltage at the starter motor terminal when the starter button was pressed and that would have led you straight to the motor itself.


That would have been very useful, yesterday Smile . Hey ho, I seem to learn something new every day I work on the bike. Thumbs Up
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Islander
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 25 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Efes123 wrote:
Islander wrote:
you could have proved the solenoid by measuring the voltage at the starter motor terminal when the starter button was pressed and that would have led you straight to the motor itself.


That would have been very useful, yesterday Smile . Hey ho, I seem to learn something new every day I work on the bike. Thumbs Up


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Pete.
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 25 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
AlexW wrote:
I have seen that before, But as I offen refurb starters.....

Did it spin over or just click? I bet it made a lovely noise if it still span.


Question for you. What's the best stuff to reattach a magnet that's come loose from the housing?

I've got a lawnmower with a starter motor that has that problem. I tried epoxy after cleaning and keying both surfaces and clamping them together overnight but it came adrift again after a couple of uses.


I used to glue them on with oven-cure single part epoxy. I can't remember the Part No as it was 20 yrs ago. I have since glued half a magnet into a waterpump with araldite and it lasted a heck of a long time but that would have a lot less load on it than a starter motor magnet.
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