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MattInnes
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Motorcycle Safety... Riders thoughts? Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

I'm currently studying Product Design at Uni and for my final year I'm looking at designing and developing a product to help improve motorcycle safety.

From my research I identified that there is a lot of issues with visibility and road conditions (diesel spills) but I was wondering what people who ride bikes feel the safety issues are when riding. I am quite interested in how both mental/physical fatigue effects both drivers and bike riders but any suggestions or personal experiences would be really appreciated.

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PostPosted: 12:58 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't crash. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Re: Motorcycle Safety... Riders thoughts? Reply with quote

MattInnes wrote:
visibility


Reflective gear, lights, fluorescent clothing... what else? light up bike like xmas tree?
or, how do you MAKE car drivers see us?

MattInnes wrote:

road conditions (diesel spills)


Electronic detector with little sensor in front of the bike to pick up diesel scent and sound alarm?
I'm being somewhere between funny and serious here....

MattInnes wrote:

mental/physical fatigue


Caffeine pills?

I once saw a bike jacket with integrated airbags that inflated the second you came off the bike so you landed on them safely. Thought that was a good idea.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Design a visor that makes it easier to see when the weather is shit. This is apparently beyond the reach of human ingenuity, if you crack it you will be rich.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Design a visor that makes it easier to see when the weather is shit. This is apparently beyond the reach of human ingenuity, if you crack it you will be rich.


This, do this.
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Design a visor that makes it easier to see when the weather is shit. This is apparently beyond the reach of human ingenuity, if you crack it you will be rich.


+1 Thumbs Up = Visor that cleans itself
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you develop something that can be fitted to cars, that will detect a bike coming and if the driver even attempts to move it applies the brakes and slaps the driver around the face?
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

tbourner wrote:
Can you develop something that can be fitted to cars, that will detect a bike coming and if the driver even attempts to move it applies the brakes and slaps the driver around the face?


How about shotgun in a steering wheel? Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Design a visor that makes it easier to see when the weather is shit. This is apparently beyond the reach of human ingenuity, if you crack it you will be rich.


+1 for this, couldn't have said it better myself!
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Design a visor that makes it easier to see when the weather is shit. This is apparently beyond the reach of human ingenuity, if you crack it you will be rich.


This. Do this for us and we will do whatever other coursework you want to do.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Non-scratch, anti-fog, water repellant visor.

Glass with heated wires in? I bet they can make glass tough enough by now.

Or a simple way of making a motorbike look distinctively like a motorbike and not a distant car with a blown headlight to a tired car driver pulling out of a sideroad.
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

tbourner wrote:
Can you develop something that can be fitted to cars, that will detect a bike coming and if the driver even attempts to move it applies the brakes and slaps the driver around the face?


Better still, shocks them in the arse! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Re: Motorcycle Safety... Riders thoughts? Reply with quote

DonDino wrote:
Electronic detector with little sensor in front of the bike to pick up diesel scent and sound alarm?
I'm being somewhere between funny and serious here....

I'll take your Version 1 and raise you Version 2.

Sensors are fitted at the factory to all lorries and cars that analyse the road surface. When diesel is detected, coordinates are uploaded and a unit dispatched to clean it up. All bikes have technology that is able to poll the database to discover all new detected spills, as they happen. If the bike is heading towards a detected spill before it has been cleaned, the biker is warned.

The sensors could also detect the formation of pot holes and monitor the general condition of the road surface (with vibration sensors, etc), giving those who maintain the roads a lot of useful data.

Apart from the crippling financial cost, it's a bloody good idea. Laughing


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PostPosted: 13:44 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Design a visor that makes it easier to see when the weather is shit. This is apparently beyond the reach of human ingenuity, if you crack it you will be rich.


It was done years ago, you can still buy them from DEMON TWEEKS Very Happy

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PostPosted: 13:48 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

yaigi wrote:
Bendy wrote:
Design a visor that makes it easier to see when the weather is shit. This is apparently beyond the reach of human ingenuity, if you crack it you will be rich.


+1 for this, couldn't have said it better myself!


This was also my first thought, something along the lines of windscreen wipers for visors...
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Yes. Non-scratch, anti-fog, water repellant visor.

Glass with heated wires in? I bet they can make glass tough enough by now.


Whatever happened to neverwet? Was supposed to be out in spray form this year. Was really hoping that would be good on the visor.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Often drivers dont judge the speed and acceleration of a bike. If they see you, they galnce away and then manoever, by which time you are far from where they saw you. This happens at intersections. They look one way, then the other, then turn, often right in front of you

Drivers who are texting while driving. To me it is like 80% or more of young women drivers. I was behind one once and I her jumping to the music, cigarette in one hand, texting with the other and driving like a bat out of hell. Something said to me dont filter past her. So I stopped behind. She took off at great speed from the traffic light, straight into a pedestrain. I never saw her brake lights come on. She obviously was looking at her phone.

Fiddling with CDs is another.

wet painted lines on the road are very slick for a bike

Oil or diesel spills at toll gates, or booms and gates, or where cars stand idling. When you stop there and put your foot down, out it goes
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A helmet inner which cancels out road and wind noise while allowing other noises like horns and so on to come through.
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The number one safety issue when riding is cars. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Design a visor that makes it easier to see when the weather is shit. This is apparently beyond the reach of human ingenuity, if you crack it you will be rich.

+infinity.

Not some Heads Up Display projector gubbins, not some integrated collision warning iPhone app (we've been here before, you see), just a visor that starts and remains water repellent, doesn't fog and doesn't scratch easily from insect chitin.

Sadly, that's an engineering problem, not a design one, so here's a idea from left field: leg cosies.

Quite often I come out and it's just cold or wet enough to not want to ride in jeans, but a passel of hassle to pull on proper waterproofs. Something that keeps most of the weather off of my legs, and particularly the front of them, would be handy. In the context of safety, when you're cold or damp or running late, you tend to press on more than you should.

I'm thinking of a set of waterproof, windproof, semi stiff open tubes that sling over the front of the seat and which you can easily tuck your legs into or behind. I'd imagine they'd benefit from straps that can be run round the front of the bike (or straight across a naked) and over the tank in order to keep them positioned them so that they match the shape of the leg. Nothing that attaches to the leg itself, that would defeat the purpose.

In essence, look at a person on a bike, design something in the shape of their legs, and a way to keep in in that shape, and remove enough so that the legs slip into it when positioned on the footpegs.

See, now I'm thinking about it... Thinking
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Sadly, that's an engineering problem, not a design one, so here's a idea from left field: leg cosies.

Quite often I come out and it's just cold or wet enough to not want to ride in jeans, but a passel of hassle to pull on proper waterproofs. Something that keeps most of the weather off of my legs, and particularly the front of them, would be handy.

I'm thinking of a set of waterproof, windproof, semi stiff open tubes that sling over the front of the seat and which you can easily tuck your legs into or behind. I'd imagine they'd benefit from straps that can be run round the front of the bike (or straight across a naked) and over the tank in order to keep them positioned them so that they match the shape of the leg. Nothing that attaches to the leg itself, that would defeat the purpose.

In essence, look at a person on a bike, design something in the shape of their legs, and a way to keep in in that shape, and remove enough so that the legs slip into it when positioned on the footpegs.

See, now I'm thinking about it... Thinking


So basically you're saying you want arseless chaps that clip onto a minimal frame that remains on the bike? Thinking
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:


Sadly, that's an engineering problem, not a design one, so here's a idea from left field: leg cosies.

Quite often I come out and it's just cold or wet enough to not want to ride in jeans, but a passel of hassle to pull on proper waterproofs. Something that keeps most of the weather off of my legs, and particularly the front of them, would be handy.

I'm thinking of a set of waterproof, windproof, semi stiff open tubes that sling over the front of the seat and which you can easily tuck your legs into or behind. I'd imagine they'd benefit from straps that can be run round the front of the bike (or straight across a naked) and over the tank in order to keep them positioned them so that they match the shape of the leg. Nothing that attaches to the leg itself, that would defeat the purpose.

In essence, look at a person on a bike, design something in the shape of their legs, and a way to keep in in that shape, and remove enough so that the legs slip into it when positioned on the footpegs.

See, now I'm thinking about it... Thinking


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PostPosted: 14:46 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invent a way to stop arogant tossers blaming other road users for daring to share the Queen's Highways.

Ban the acronym SMIDSY

I introduce a word bikers can learn to use like: 'I see you cager but am anticpating that you will pull out on top of me as I approach that junction you at waiting at'.

+1 for the visor thingymabobbin.

Hi-Viz is not the panacea some folk like to believe it is.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys really appreciating the feedback, it's interesting to hear that there's such an issue with visors considering that every rider in the UK has to wear a helmet.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 31 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haters gonna hate. Middle FingerRazzMiddle Finger

Think neoprene with a few stiffening cuffs, slap some REPSOL stickers on them...

OK, the market is all weather, all season riders who want to save 2 minutes a couple of times a month, so it's maybe not a shoe-in for Dragon's Den. Wink
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