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PostPosted: 09:07 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Feel Sorry for comet workers Reply with quote

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/money/4622800/Electricals-chain-Comet-in-chaos-after-collapse.html

Wonder when it will ever stop with the amount of jobs lost already.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comet tbh is a dinosaur.

Amazon and such like make a killing on lower prices as they don't have extortionate rents and business rates to pay. Nor does amazon actually pay any corp tax.

Think how big a comet store is and biz rates are typically around £100 per sq ft every year.

Idiotic councils who have never had real jobs think crap, our income is dropping like a stone. Lets put in parking charges and increase biz rates even more. Which pushes prices comet has to charge even more and makes people avoid those places.


They forget if you keep stealing other peoples effort, eventually the person you're stealing from will throw in the towel.
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

THE BANKERS are the culprits.
They all still have jobs or rich beyond needing a job the bastirts.


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PostPosted: 09:47 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
They forget if you keep stealing other peoples effort, eventually the person you're stealing from will throw in the towel.


but muh socialism!!
make the rich pay, it's all their fault!
all corporations deserve to pay loads of money!
its deffo not HMRC's fault for failing to enforce collection, its the corporations for not paying!

Edit: I've been thinking recently that maybe the recession is a good thing. It's sort of like business Darwinism. Suddenly the "food supply" has got a lot smaller, to survive in the harsher climate now you need to cut back on waste, be more innovative, and generally do a good job. Big firms that may have gotten lazy, as big firms are apt to do, need to wake up and sort their shit out if they are to survive. Now times are tough you actually need to be good at business to stay in business.
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also feel sorry for the workers, pawns in the big game. Comet were effectively a giant credit broker, that's how they made money not through being an electrical retailer. When the banks/insurance companies refused to give them insurance for bad credit down they went.
It's true, there is a bit of darwinism about it but as usual the main people to suffer are the plebs, us lot.

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PostPosted: 10:23 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well.

Always found Comet a bit underwhelming.

Went in there when they had an offer on a Smart Plasma 3DTV package, only to have the sales dude tell me it's shit and expecting me to fork out more than double for just the TV!

Their display was shit, massive gaps everywhere and the staff just don't seem to give a toss.

Take a look at John Lewis. Stores are always smart and very well presented, as are their staff. They KNOW about the products and the technology and generally give a toss what the customer thinks.

If I say I've got £600 to spend on a TV, I have £600 to spend, NOT £1,000 and no, I dont want to 'bung it on finance'!

Good riddance to a shit hole IMHO! They've been floundering for years!

Just a shame about the 6,000 odd people out of a job...
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Git Racing wrote:
I also feel sorry for the workers, pawns in the big game. Comet were effectively a giant credit broker, that's how they made money not through being an electrical retailer. When the banks/insurance companies refused to give them insurance for bad credit down they went.
It's true, there is a bit of darwinism about it but as usual the main people to suffer are the plebs, us lot.

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PostPosted: 10:29 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a coincidence, I drove past a Comet store last weekend and commented how crap it was looking, how they seem to have dropped behind the times, not kept up with even their main competitor Currys, and I wondered how long it would be til they went bust. It's a sad situation for the staff but tbh I would have seen it coming if I worked there; Best Buy went, Currys have closed loads of stores and had a massive re-vamp, Comet have done bugger all.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, did you choose to buy anything from Comet when you could have got it cheaper elsewhere?

If not, then here's the reason why they've gone under:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p5L8yIxzazU/UE3pCGLQZvI/AAAAAAAAAXY/STZWw2k636I/s1600/Framed_Mirror.jpg
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A big problem for many of these companys that go into adminstration is the simple fact that their cash flow position is very bad!

If you have high profits but bad cash flow management then you will go into adminstration as when your creditors demand payment for your stock (as most stock is bought on credit) they simply dont have the money to pay these liabilites there and then.

Profits and cash flow are very different things and if not managed correctly you end up screwed

Their stratgic financial advisor takes the piss as he should have been forumlating a strategy to copy, improve & implement on how to get into the online market in a similar fashion to Amazon and other online companys, but he just took his pay check and did bugger all hence the problem Comet now have.

If your competor's are doing something that really works copy their idea and tweak it to suit yours, (Samsung vs Apple, Gumtree vs Loot) PRIDE makes you slow to act to the market and can lead to going into admistration especially in the electronics field not so much in the fashion field as PRIDE kinda is what makes you who you are there.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good on the suppliers cutting the credit chain , too many companies will just pull the plug and stuff suppliers up in the process.


Obviously the job losses is regrettable and theres gonna be big holes in the high street soon Shocked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20054168
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting article on their demise.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/9649664/Comet-another-OpCapita-kiss-of-death.html
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seriously thought about out bidding him and buying comet for £1.50 I mean you only need to get a packet batteries outta the place and you'll be up Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

feel sorry for the staff but looking forward to the sale, lots of cheap electrical goods in time for Xmas
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a Comet and Currys/PC-World next door to each other and I always go into both when looking for an item. Currys win every time on the sheer amount of choice and there's rarely any difference in price worth talking about.
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

soforene wrote:
Eggs Benedict wrote:
I seriously thought about out bidding him and buying comet for £1.50 I mean you only need to get a packet batteries outta the place and you'll be up Mr. Green
And of course the £40 Million pensions debt that would be in your name too.

Better make that 2 packs of batteries. Rechargeable ones too!!. Very Happy


That would be the companies debt, remember Vauxhall
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Golden Showers wrote:
Another turkey voting for Xmas! Fuckwit.


Would you care to elaborate a bit more? You get the first part of my reply was in jest right?

Retails is changing, the only time I go "shopping" in real life is when I'm absolutely desperate for something and I accept I'm going to have to pay over the odds for something. I've no doubt that more and more people will/are buying online. Bricks and mortar stores can't compete on price with online shopping. You walk into Currys etc and know you are paying 8/9 pounds for a product you could get on ebay for a few quid.

It is a shame about the employees that work there, but businesses don't exist just to give people jobs. If you can't keep up you get left behind. Either exploit the changing landscape or someone else makes you obsolete.

Muh free markets.... Laughing


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PostPosted: 13:47 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way things are going the only places you will actually be able to go and touch the goods will be Tescos, Asda, Sainsburys and Morrisons. Everywhere else will be closed down. Shops boarded up. Rates through the roof to make up for lack of buisness rates.

Buying on line will be the only option.

It's a fucking bleak future.
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:

It is a shame about the employees that work there, but businesses don't exist just to give people jobs. If you can't keep up you get left behind. Either exploit the changing landscape or someone else makes you obsolete.

Muh free markets.... Laughing


It's amazing how peoples opinion changes when it's their job that is going.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose you could argue that all the online buyer and distance selling protections mean that it is actually more attractive to buy online.

DSR means I can send it back within 7 days, and the paypal chargeback system is certainly open to abuse from buyers.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richer Sounds FTW.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

This rush towards online shopping is like lemmings chucking themselves over a cliff.

The downside to the high street or the retail park is the extra cost. I can't see why an item ordered and delivered from the same company should cost less than one that you've walked in and collected.

So when they retreat from physical stores completely and you've got to wait for delivery regardless, people are going to go for the ABSOLUTE cheapest online seller, often in the USA. So they're still losing sales.

Whatever the reason for Comet's demise it isn't for a lack of online selling. Currys don't make a mint from online sales. People GO TO Currys to buy stuff.

Personally I suspect that Comet's problem is one of image. They were probably seen as a little bit "Council", just like Woolworths became.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 02 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Richer Sounds FTW.


somehow, these seem to have what I want, at a cheaper price than comet.
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