Why you shouldn't loan bikes to learners

[P.addy]

FANTASTIC

Thought I'd let brother take the Varadero out to get some shopping for his kids, he is covered by insurance and what not but thought he could do with some time out of the house etc.

Doesn't gear up, trackies, jacket and a helmet, you know. Chav 2 da max.

He kinda limped back home about 20 minutes later, bit worrying. Tears in his eyes...more worry.

Me - "Where is the bike...."

Chav - "you are going to hate me... im sorry"

He says he dropped it turning right. I called bullshit.

Had a look at it, the forks are either bent or slightly twisted in the yokes, the front right fairing is fucked, looks like Stevie Wonder was armed with a belt sander laced with grit and diamonds.
My Tucano Urbano on the right has been chewed through, the handle bars are bent, the exhaust cover has a massive dent in there and has been ground down on the bolt, marvellous.

I could barely ride it home, waited with him till the ambulance arrived, turned out he has broken a fair few things. One thing he has shattered is my trust in him.

Pics to follow, its way too dark now to take them Utterly fucked off.

[covent.gardens]

Bad news. Do you think he'll pay up to fix it?

[_mjs_]

This is why I never lend things to people!
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Previous Bikes: 2006 Honda XR125L > 2003 Yamaha DT125R > 1996 Honda CB500
Current bikes: 1997 Kawasaki ZZR 600 E5 > 2006 Honda Varadero XL125V

[Pie-Roe]

Sounds a bit shit, this is the one you bought to make money on yeah?
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Previous: GSF600, FZR600 x2, ZXR750, XT600 Tenere, CB125, CZ125, ETZ 250, ER5, CCM R30, DRZ400, RF600x4, RF900x2, GS500, VTR1000F, 640 SMC, CB250 NIGHTHAWK, GT550x3, GPX750 TE610, CB500, X11x2, SV650, ZING 125, TL1000R,CB250 Superdream, CBR1100XX

[P.addy]

[UnspeedySam]

That sucks I have a tendency to lend stuff to people and at times it hasn't ended too well. Hopefully he won't be a dick and pay for the damage...maybe, you know...help do the repairs
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Riding: BMW R1150RT `02 bought mildly crashed
Fixing: Also the BMW as I get less broken bits
Gone: ZZR600 '00, TRX850 '97, RXS100 '93, JS125-6B '07, BMW R1100RS '93, Kawasaki ZX-6R-J2 '01, Honda Bros NT400 NC25 '88

[P.addy]

Won't happen. He has no money, he is on the dole with 2 kids... You try to help people out and sometimes they just don't realise what means very little to them is a lot to someone else.

[Pie-Roe]

[Wave2k]

To crash a 125 you HAVE to be being an arse on it, this shows a lack of respect to you as a trusting brother and even less respect to not pay for the damage caused by being an arse on it !

I only lend my bike to people i trust and can pay for the damage, ive lend my bike to lots of people on BCF, even on trackdays.

Family of not, poor or not it shows a complete lack of respect to you.

Id be livid, infact im livid putting myself in your shoes
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Ducati 1299 Panigale
2009 Corvette C6 z51
RS125->CBR400->RXS100->GSXR750K2->Ducati749S->CBR600RR5->TL1000R->DRz400->RSVR1000->Honda VTR SP1->CBR400->GSXR1000K6->Honda H100->CBR600RR3->Ducati1299

[stuartt]

Sorry to hear about the bike that's shite

[P.addy]

[Frost]

This is why I never borrow things!

[Wave2k]

Like i said.

I too loan out my bikes, but only to people i TRUST and can afford to pay me back if they bin.

More fool you if you expect him to maybe crash it and especially not to pay.
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Ducati 1299 Panigale
2009 Corvette C6 z51
RS125->CBR400->RXS100->GSXR750K2->Ducati749S->CBR600RR5->TL1000R->DRz400->RSVR1000->Honda VTR SP1->CBR400->GSXR1000K6->Honda H100->CBR600RR3->Ducati1299

[P.addy]

[LordShaftesbu...]

Look on the bright side, it's only a bike.

Live and learn.

[P.addy]

Totally, I've lost one brother in the last month...I couldn't lose another.

[Zen Dog]

Paddy's bike = crashed

Paddy wasn't on it.

When someone wants to lend something, I ask myself if I'll be pissed off if I don't get it back. Then usually lend it to them anyway. And then ring them up and demand it back when I finally remember that they've got it. Don't think there actually is a useful lesson in that...

Hope the bike doesn't cost too much to fix.

Zen Dog
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Current - '94 VFR750FR (Dead), '00 VFR800FI, '11 600 Hornet - Previous - '11 CBF125, '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win
My bike trip around S.E. Asia 2010/2011

[Ichy]

It's a tough call when it's your brother. Mine? No problem at all. He would have gone and brought a mint second hand one to bring back and still apologised. I have no issue letting people borrow my stuff. If they don't bring it back then I guess I made a poor judgement of their character and I'm better off without them.
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[Mrjoolz]

Dam!!!

Rotten luck matey.

So that's you back in car to work now then. Bang goes the profit on that bike. Patch it up, "Stealth It" flog it.

Buy a nice ZZR600, I know of one just up road, heard grips, new chain sprockets,tyres, brake pads, wavey discs.
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Previous Bikes: TZR125, KMX125, RGV250, RD350YPVS, GXSR750H, GSXR600SRAD, R1 (2000), GSXR1000 (K1), ZZR600, CBR1100XX Super Blackbird

Current Bike: Suzuki GSX1300R Hyabusa.....

[Nick_Giles]

Bummer.!

"Bend it, you buy it." Does unfortunatly not seem possible.


Nick
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[goto10]

I don't lend or borrow anything these days. I used to, but it rarely ends well.
The absolute best you can hope to achieve by lending something out is to get it back in the same condition [unlikely], the normal expectation is to have it back slightly worse than it was [yay] - the worst case scenario is as OP has described [yay^2]
The same for borrowing something - 5 years after borrowing it, the lender will say "This has just fallen apart. It wasn't like that when I lent it to you" [yay to feeling obliged into paying for repairs]

If I need something, I buy it or rent it.
If you need something, you buy it or rent it.
= happiness.
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'12 NC700S & '12 CB600F Hornet [Stolen by some dickless twat] Suzuki GT500 shed

[goto10]

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'12 NC700S & '12 CB600F Hornet [Stolen by some dickless twat] Suzuki GT500 shed

[Llama-Farmer]

I stopped letting people borrow vehicles after my mate smashed a car of mine up doing handbrake turns in an empty car park.

I bought the car for £200 as a "couldn't-care-less-about-it" runabout which I could chuck rubbish and bricks and garden waste in the back and not bothered about scratches or anything, anyway took it to an empty industrial estate carpark on a sunday afternoon where a friend works to have a bit of fun doing j-turns, my friend begs me for a go, does a handbrake turn and bounces off a kerb completely ripping the rear hub off the axle and buckling the floor and rear wing.

He bought the car off me there and then for the £200 I paid for it, but then the hassle of having to get a new one. And I didn't bother.

[Knightsy]

FUUUU... Sucks to hear that man.

Will you bother fixing it or you reckon it ain't worth it ?
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[AlexW]

This is a bad thread to read after lending out my SV :/