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PostPosted: 14:00 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Changing a car tyre Reply with quote

So our lovely neighbours continue to be fabulous.

My nice neighbour just rang me to say my tyre is down. I went out to look and it has a big screw screwed part-way into the side of the rear tyre. It's completely flat.

I've gone through all the helpful but ultimately pointless police palaver.

I have to pick himself up from school at 3.15. I can walk in to get him but he can't walk back from town and then up the mountain so i need to take the car. I need to change the tyre having never done so before so have questions. . .

Where do i put the jack to lift the car without damaging it? Do i just undo all the bolts, take the wheel off then do up all the bolts again?
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should be a mark where the jack goes, it'll also tell you in your handbook.
Undo the bolts slightly while the tyre is on the ground, jack it up, undo the nuts, remove wheel and do same in return.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loosen the bolts before you jack the car up.

Have you had a look on the jack? Sometimes it shows the jacking points on a sticker on the jack.
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its normally not very far from each wheel, normally a gap in the sill.


make sure you loosen the wheel nuts a tad before you jack the car!
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

and tighten fully once on the ground again


what car is it?
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

fantastic, thank you chaps. No manual sorry. Hence i'm on here asking probably obvious questions Very Happy

I've found a notch bit in the to put the jack in, cheers. The hub-cap is a twangy and flimsy looking plastic thing do i just lever it off or is there a special non-snapping way to remove it?

EDIT: ignore that. Just twanged it off with a flat-head screwdriver Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will just be 4-5 clips that hold it on the seam around the edge of the rim, should just be able to pry it out, make sure its not cable tied on though. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just go round the edge of it pulling slightly and it should come off.

Do you know that your spare wheel is good? Make sure first.
As the others said, slightly loosen the wheel bolts/nuts first before you jack the car up, unless its one of the rears - the handbrake will hold it.

Swap the wheels over, make sure you tighten the nuts/bolts up properly. I'm guessing you dont have a torque wrench.. So in that case pretty bloody tight will suffice.

Then take it to have the tyre plugged, providing its repairable. Dont pay too much though, especially if the tread is low. New tyres in your size (Ford Ka?) can be picked up pretty cheap.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sidewall = no repair. Sad

Like fcuk would I rely on a handbrake to hold a wheel in place. I've rocked a car while heaving hard on my nuts while it had all 4 wheels on the ground and the handbrake on.

Don't surprised if the supplied wrench is completely inadequate for loosening off the nuts. You might need a lot more leverage than it provides - a length of pipe is ideal. If you can't budge any of them, call that plumber who fixed your shower and tell him you need him back pronto to <mumble>pipe... nuts... rim....</mumble>
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's cracking, thank you chaps! All done - woo hoo!

No torque wrench beatnck2 Embarassed but did them up as tight as they were before (grunty-noise-tight Very Happy ).

Hadn't considered a repair so will go have a nose after the school run, be nice boy-thing for himself to do. Spare was all ok. . . .although i have never checked it before so that was just luck Embarassed

I really appreciate your help everyone. I was in the mood to sit and snivel when i found out what had been done to it, i feel lots better now it's sorted. Will try and find somewhere else to park it as clearly i can't leave it outside the house any more Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Sidewall = no repair. Sad

Like fcuk would I rely on a handbrake to hold a wheel in place. I've rocked a car while heaving hard on my nuts while it had all 4 wheels on the ground and the handbrake on.

Don't surprised if the supplied wrench is completely inadequate for loosening off the nuts. You might need a lot more leverage than it provides - a length of pipe is ideal. If you can't budge any of them, call that plumber who fixed your shower and tell him you need him back proto to <mumble>pipe... nuts... rim....</mumble>


Hehe! It was ok. . . .but wasn't one of those spinny 4-pronged things just a tube with a shaped bit at one end. But did the job ok.

Sorry Eggs Bendict, missed your question, car is a ka.

Anyone else with a ka, i discovered just now (thankfully whilst with a puncture at home not out in the middle of nowhere) that the bolt in the boot holding the metal spare-tyre-holding-frame-bit on to the underside of the car looks a similar size to the wheel nuts. . . .but it is not and the tyre nut-undoer thing is too big. Had to get my socket set to undo it. Can't get the spare tyre off without undoing it though.

I could have been in a layby with the car up and the wheel off but no access to the spare. . . .thanks Ford Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Like fcuk would I rely on a handbrake to hold a wheel in place. I've rocked a car while heaving hard on my nuts while it had all 4 wheels on the ground and the handbrake on.



Oh you disgusting Carophile Sick
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

cornish wrote:
Anyone else with a ka, i discovered just now (thankfully whilst with a puncture at home not out in the middle of nowhere) that the bolt in the boot holding the metal spare-tyre-holding-frame-bit on to the underside of the car looks a similar size to the wheel nuts. . . .but it is not and the tyre nut-undoer thing is too big. Had to get my socket set to undo it. Can't get the spare tyre off without undoing it though.

I could have been in a layby with the car up and the wheel off but no access to the spare. . . .thanks Ford Rolling Eyes


Can't remember quite what I used now, but I had to change the wheel of my Ka at the roadside. It definitely came undone using only the tools that come with the car.

Another thing to be very careful of is the muck on the tyre. The one strung under the car has had years of grease spread all over it. It'll be slippery for a good few miles! When I changed mine I was on a dual carriageway, gave it the beans to get up to speed quickly and nearly ended up in the central reservation!
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah, probably a missing tool then. Ours has the jack and the tyre nut thing but nothing else. But i'm glad i found that out here Very Happy

i will be careful too, thank you. Both roads off the mountain are really steep and have lots of manhole covers. The death drop one (The Bowjey) is dead short zig-zag lane and is insanely steep, but has three manhole covers in a row across it's width on the apex of both bends Shocked Tiny Cornish calls it The Scare-jey and thinks it's 'fun' going down it Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Job Thumbs Up
Its always good to see folk attempt to change their tyres instead of waiting for recovery to do it for them Cool


Do you think was done deliberately?
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think so. We've had a lot of problems with one neighbour down the road. The screw was sticking out horizontally from the side of the tyre and was only a inch or so away from the hub-cap so it can't be something i drove over Sad

The police can't get finger prints from tyres apparently as they are too dirty and the screw is also extremely unlikely. They're sending someone out 'soon' tho. Ultimately they won't be able to do anything but we are attempting to get moved so i have to log everything with them.

I have to find somewhere to park the car that's close enough so we can use it but not where they'll be able to easily find it. I'd park it miles away and walk but Himself could do without a hike to and from school every day.

Boo Sad
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

cornish wrote:
I think so. We've had a lot of problems with one neighbour down the road. The screw was sticking out horizontally from the side of the tyre and was only a inch or so away from the hub-cap so it can't be something i drove over Sad

The police can't get finger prints from tyres apparently as they are too dirty and the screw is also extremely unlikely. They're sending someone out 'soon' tho. Ultimately they won't be able to do anything but we are attempting to get moved so i have to log everything with them.

I have to find somewhere to park the car that's close enough so we can use it but not where they'll be able to easily find it. I'd park it miles away and walk but Himself could do without a hike to and from school every day.

Boo Sad


A screw/nail/something in the side wall is not necesarily from a malicious cnut down the road.
When you corner the tyre rolls over a bit and can pick up nails etc. or when you run over a 'Oh.. What was that I just ran over?' with the screwnail hanging out it can be lifted up and pshed into the tyre wall higher up.

I would go for the 'Oh.. What was that I just ran over?' scenario.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's worth knowing, thank you. We've not had any trouble from her for a bit and i was hoping she'd given up/died of explosive dysentery/been sent back to Mordor to make the orks feel prettier.

Hope it's just a random screw (snigger) Wink
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Don't surprised if the supplied wrench is completely inadequate for loosening off the nuts. You might need a lot more leverage than it provides - a length of pipe is ideal. If you can't budge any of them, call that plumber who fixed your shower and tell him you need him back proto to <mumble>pipe... nuts... rim....</mumble>


If you really can't shift 'em with the wheel brace you can use the jack to lever it but obviously that's a bit of a faff.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread has reminded me to check the tyre pressure of the spare.... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howling Terror wrote:
This thread has reminded me to check the tyre pressure of the spare.... Thumbs Up


This thread has reminded me to buy a spare Sad
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spare wheel carrier on a KA is bloody dog shite.

The nut in the boot floor is indeed the same as the wheel nuts. (19mm).

But undoing it with the little wheel brace they give you is tedious. Especially if the thread on the cage bracket is slightly rusty, as it means you cant just crack it off, and spin it down by hand. You need to undo it 1/3 turn at a time, as there is no room to get in there.


3/8" battery nut gun, extension, and a 19mm UJ socket for the win. Can get it on there, and have the spare out in seconds. Twisted Evil



Regarding the puncture. Got a picture of it. I repair my tyres if they are punctured outside of the "allowed" zone, which is generally the central thee quarters of the treaded area.

Full on sidewall repairs are a little bit naughty. But if it's still on the treaded part of the tyre, I'd fix it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 03:13 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread has remined me I need to inject Punturesafe into my new bike tyres. (and he new tyres on the cage too.)

walloper doesn't do punctures.
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
Spare wheel carrier on a KA is bloody dog shite.

The nut in the boot floor is indeed the same as the wheel nuts. (19mm).

But undoing it with the little wheel brace they give you is tedious. Especially if the thread on the cage bracket is slightly rusty, as it means you cant just crack it off, and spin it down by hand. You need to undo it 1/3 turn at a time, as there is no room to get in there.


3/8" battery nut gun, extension, and a 19mm UJ socket for the win. Can get it on there, and have the spare out in seconds. Twisted Evil



Regarding the puncture. Got a picture of it. I repair my tyres if they are punctured outside of the "allowed" zone, which is generally the central thee quarters of the treaded area.

Full on sidewall repairs are a little bit naughty. But if it's still on the treaded part of the tyre, I'd fix it. Thumbs Up




Got a couple of pics and am going to get it done asap as we now have no spare. It's been in the kitchen since yesterday waiting for the police to have a gander, it's already getting on my wick Very Happy

https://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p619/cornishbird79/pics/tyre001.jpg


https://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p619/cornishbird79/pics/tyre002.jpg

I just checked the the bolt out of curiosity. I used a 3/4 socket which is about 19mm (i think?) but the tyre thingie just seemed to flap around on it.

I just took the 3/4 socket out and tried it against the wheel nuts. . .it fits Doh! So they must be the same size and i was just having a bint-spaz getting the tyre wotsit on the bolt in the funny shaped space Rolling Eyes But at least the socket was nice and quick so i'm going to pass that off as intentional and call it efficiency Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That didnt get in there by chance. No way.
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