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guile
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Correct gear for speed/revs? Reply with quote

A real noobie question - but how do you select the right gear in terms of engine health and fuel economy?

On a 125 you can feel the engine splutter when you're in too high a gear or over-rev in too low a gear, so it's easy but now I'm on 33bhp, I find I can ride at 30-40mph in gears 3-6 and it doesn't feel/sound much different.

Does higher revs = more fuel consumption or what? What RPM is correct for cruising?
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are worrying about fuel economy. I said keep the 125...

But no, revs being lower doesn't mean more MPG.
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iMark
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Correct gear for speed/revs? Reply with quote

guile wrote:
What RPM is correct for cruising?


What ever you feel the bike is happy at... mines will sit at 3k RPM in 6th doing 40 and it'll pick up fine twisting the throttle on.

if you are in too high a gear and too little RPM you will feel it, it will still "splutter" if it is low enough... try letting the RPM drop when you're coming to a stop without using the clutch and you'll see.



as for consumption.. it's how much, how far and how often you twist the throttle.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are worrying about fuel economy. I said keep the 125...

But no, revs being lower doesn't mean more MPG.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and if you are massively hell bent on tracking you're mileage and petrol usage, use Fuelly

I've started using it out of curiosity as to what MPG I get... so far between 50 and 62... lol


Just use your trip meter, reset it to 0 every time you fill up.
When you fill up take note on how many miles you done, and how many litres you put in the tank to "fill" it.

Go to Fuelly, enter your Miles done and how much you filled up, it then calculates how much MPG you get and tracks it for you.

e.g.
https://mefi.us/images/fuelly/smallsig-uk/160000.png
click
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:


But no, revs being lower doesn't mean more MPG.


Are you sure????????

I'm pretty damn sure there's a very strong correlation between engine revs and the amount of fuel required to create those revs...?
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PostPosted: 07:29 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sa1988 wrote:
##Paddy## wrote:


But no, revs being lower doesn't mean more MPG.


Are you sure????????

I'm pretty damn sure there's a very strong correlation between engine revs and the amount of fuel required to create those revs...?


Except for some extreme cases, you are right. If you let an engine labour then maybe not, but in general more revs means more fuel.
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PostPosted: 07:38 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sa1988 wrote:
##Paddy## wrote:


But no, revs being lower doesn't mean more MPG.


Are you sure????????

I'm pretty damn sure there's a very strong correlation between engine revs and the amount of fuel required to create those revs...?


I only know cos I watched my diagnostic unit in the Golf yesterday.

3rd gear was doing 35mpg at 30mph.
When I put it in 4th, it dropped to under 30mpg.

The diagnostic ran a whole hour of general driving, just to try and find the odd issues I have with my idle and air intake sensors.
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PostPosted: 07:53 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sa1988 wrote:

I'm pretty damn sure there's a very strong correlation between engine revs and the amount of fuel required to create those revs...?


There is a correlation but it is circumstancial. What really matters is how much fuel goes into the cylinders to be burned.

So, if you are in a high gear, and hit an uphill road, you may well be able to proceed in low revs but you will need to open up the throttle much more, hence much more fuel will be going in the mixture.
If you drop down a gear, revs will go up but you won't need to open the throttle as much and less fuel will be going in the mixture.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I must get about the best fuel ecconnomy when at ~8k on the motorway. I never seem to match the miles per tank that I get there anywhere else Smile

Also I'm fairly sure I need new spark plugs which can't be helping.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
I think I must get about the best fuel ecconnomy when at ~8k on the motorway. I never seem to match the miles per tank that I get there anywhere else


Same here. I blame magic.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I blame the engine. It makes peak power somewhere and is most efficient at certain ranges.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
I think I must get about the best fuel ecconnomy when at ~8k on the motorway. I never seem to match the miles per tank that I get there anywhere else Smile


the brake is the worst pedal for fuel economy, every time you use it you have wasted all the energy it took to get you up to speed. On motorways you don't use it very often so save a lot of fuel.
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