Wheel nut torque or guess?

[biker7]

Ok so the torque for a rear axle nut is 72 lb-ft. Mine seemed bloody tight after the realer had it torqued up. I'm sure the correct method would be with a torque wrench to avoid damage or danger. If doing by hand with a socket wrench, what would be better - arm tight or foot tight?
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Fat Bob (2019)

[Pete.]

Use a foot-long bar and find a 72lb child to stand on the end of it.

Hard to say anything more without knowing your size and build. If you're a skinny non-physical type you might struggle to pull a spanner up to 72lb-ft with one arm. If you're 12 stone or more you should be able to do it comfortably. I just do mine up tight.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[Polarbear]

[biker7]

Just been down to see the service manager at my local Suzuki dealer. This is what he said. Torque wrench out of preference. If you are tightening with an ordinary wrench - too tight is worse. Give a good tighten with your arm muscles but don't use extra leverage. The nut is designed not to come off. Guys who have always tightened the wheel nuts on a particular bike just have a 'feel' when it's right. This seems to make sense to me.
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Fat Bob (2019)

[Walloper]

Tighten until your intestine is almost pushed through your butt hole then Stop.

Mostly it's by feel. But for safety use a torque wrench if you are not sure.
What wheel nuts are designed to not work slack?
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[Pete.]

Too tight is worse than too lose? Can't say I agree with that. Every threaded fastener has a minimum torque that's needed to stop it coming undone, though most spindle nuts are the locking type now. Motocycle spindle bolts clamp the assembly to stop the wheel pulling forward under power and loading the adjuster bolts. They also keep the whole assembly stiff and prevent bending loads on the spindle.

Too tight just means it's too tight. The only harm you could do is strip the threads or deform the washers. You have to be some kind of animal to strip spindle threads. A mate of mine did it by using a club hammer and long 36mm spanner because he was worried about it working loose, but I can't see you managing it with 'normal' tools.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[biker7]

[Walloper]

[barrkel]

I once arrived in Germany with my ER6 and figured the chain needed adjustment. Imagine my surprise when I found the axle nut loose! Not in danger of coming off because of the cotter pin, but loose nonetheless. Went over 1000 miles on it like that.

I now check second-hand bikes bought from dealers a lot more thoroughly...
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[Kickstart]

[Pete.]

[J.M.]

I'm not of a particularly strong or muscular build... I find that just doing it up as tight as I can with a standard sized 1/2 inch ratchet works perfectly.

I own a torque wrench... but really only ever use it on my sump plug.
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[bikenut]

:karma: hi dude,

if you have atorque wrench you should use it rather than rely on porrage for breakfast.

using a rachet??

people come in all shapes and sizes.............

a kif=d the right wieght at the end of a foot bar made me laugh!!

force x radius.

do it to the specified torque and youll be ok, leagally and eng wise.

do insurance crash investigaters check stuff like this, accident dependant!

[mudcow007]

[Rogerborg]

Two grunts, the second one to make sure that the first one wasn't acid reflux.

I'm trying to picture a professional spanner monkey even looking up the torque figures let alone bothering about them, but all I keep coming up with is the more likely scenario of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny double-teaming a Man Friendly Lesbian.
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[Walloper]

[janner_10]

[Walloper]

[Polarbear]

There is a big debate going on at the moment on the Triumph Explorer forum over torque settings. Powerbronze issued a safety notice over the torque settings of their hugger mounting bolts which are the rear caliper mountings. Triumph say 40 Nm, so did PowerBronze but their new safety notice says 86Nm.

No effing chance PowerBronze, you have fucked up seriously.
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[Walloper]

[Pete.]

That's true and it's why really important torque values include the lubricated condition e.g. 'dry' or 'moly-lube thread and under bolt head'

It gets even worse if you have a fine thread when clamping forces can go through the roof.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[janner_10]

[Walloper]

[bikenut]

youngs modulus, elastic limit, yield point etc. angular torque and bolt stretch??!!

[Walloper]