Caught Speeding 88mph in a 60? Been to court Update

[HaggisHunter]

On my way home from work about 11.40pm, just overtook a car and slowing. when ZOOM passed 2 yellow jackets and police car tucked in a side road hidden by trees. 1 minute later , Audi RS4 didn't fancy my chances of running.

Very nice police men though both bikers, couldn't give a fixed penalty as being over 86mph. Police says probably be a 3 points and a hefty fine but as i'm within 2years if they go for 6, plead hardship as only mode of transport and 60mile round trip to work, so would loose my job and it should be reduced to 5 or less

On a lighter note they asked if i was going flat out to which i replied "no but don't want to incriminate my self" to one of them replied "gotta prove it too charge you" then he started to talk about going 150+ on his R1

*************** UPDATE *******************

Been to court today and faced my fortune.

Luckily only 4points and £350 reduced from 6points and £525

Judge took into account had taken time out of my own time to complete Bike safe and that my boss wrote an absolutely beautiful letter of recommendation.

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[mysterious_rider]

caught by a speed gun i presume?

[lihp]

Hardship isn't a valid defense when it's your own hardship, that's what a punishment is.

Hardship is only an acceptable defense when the penalty will cause significant hardship on another person who may rely on your transport.

[Skudd]

I realise just how lucky I was getting done for 98.3mph and only getting 3 points and £60 fine.
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[Frost]

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[Rogerborg]

If they were nice, the hypocritical fucknuts wouldn't have tugged you in the first place. Just saying.

Eh, that could go either way. 88 in a 60 is technically high enough for an instant ban, let alone 6 points. Tariff is 3-6, it's at the Sheriff's discretion.

Just losing your job should not be grounds for pleading exceptional hardship - it's part of the risk we assume when we treat the signs as advisory.

Given the risk of losing your license, I'd suggest that you write down your recollection of what happened in as much detail as possible, and speak to a specialist motoring solicitor, either now, or when the Citation arrives.
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[yuri2085]

Yer and they wouldn't have fed you some bullshit trying to trip you up by telling you they can't convict you on confession alone! Although he did ask you a direct incriminating question and (I assume?) didn't read you your rights so perhaps that evidence wouldn't be admissible.

[cornish]

My dad and uncle were both coppers. The thing about a lot of coppers is that they are neveroff duty and there is no such thing as 'off the record' or 'casual banter'. You did well not to drop yourself in further poo. Chances are they may well have been genuinely being nice. . . .but it's wiser not to chance it
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[CaNsA]

The only hope you have is the courts issue less than 6points, but it is upto the CPS.

If the courts issue you 6pts you can still ride until that letter from the DVLA arrives saying your licence has been revoked.

Then you start from scratch.
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[HaggisHunter]

Thanks for the reply.

Police also said I may just get through letter offering 3points and 60+ fine, if I plead guilty to save going to court. Chances?

[Skudd]

[kingsmith]

just be an sp30 and £60 fine got done 2yrs ago 83 in a 60...van at side of the road.
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[Nick 50]

Daft question I know, but how do they clock someones speed from a side road?
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[HaggisHunter]

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[boundy]

You might get a away without a summons

The ACPO Speed Enforcement Guidelines

Speed Limit (mph) Fixed Penalty Summons
20 25 35
30 35 50
40 46 66
50 57 76
60 68 86
70 79 96

[mysterious_rider]

[CaNsA]

google


Disqualification under the ‘totting-up’ system

If you build up 12 or more penalty points within a period of three years, you’ll be liable to be disqualified under the 'totting-up' system.

Generally, you can be disqualified from driving for:

six months if you get 12 penalty points or more within three years
12 months if you get a second disqualification within three years
two years if you get a third disqualification

[HaggisHunter]

Update been to court 4points and £350 fine

[J4mes]

I got 4 points and £400 for 92 in a 60, so not too different!

At least in reality you still have another 3 3 point offences before you get banned under totting up, unlike the 6 points which only leaves you with 2!

[Skudd]

98.3mph 3 points £60 fine.
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Good news update.
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[kawakid]

Got let off doing 68 in a 30.

Tbf it was Ireland, I was English, It was normally a 55, but due to roadworks was a 30. The guard followed me for an hour after though.

Good result mate, I'm glad you didn't lose your license.

Slow down, when does your 2 year period end.
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