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| Werny |
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 Posted: 23:58 - 14 Nov 2012 Post subject: How does this work? |
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Saw pics today of Bimota's line-up at the EICMA show and flicking through the photos a couple made me pause.
I've been trying to work out how the suspension works on the rear monoshock. Obviously it must work, and work well I'd imagine, but it looks like a very weird and almost flimsy set-up.
https://farm9.static.flickr.com/8488/8186195288_bff40f1c15_o.jpg
It looks to me as though the shock is mounted to the frame or engine at the bottom, with the swingarm acting on the top of the shock, but it's set at such an odd angle I can't even work out if it's applying compression or tension to the shock as the wheel is loaded. It looks like it just pivots the shock without really applying force through it as you'd expect on a normal set-up.
Can anyone explain the blindingly obvious thing I'm missing here?
I'm also not digging the look of tubular struts bolting into a billet plate as a swingarm, somehow it just doesn't look strong enough. Again I can only imagine that it is indeed strong enough, if there's one thing Bimota is known for it's their frame building abilities.
Apart from that, it's quite a good looking bike. |
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 Shaft World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 01:20 - 15 Nov 2012 Post subject: |
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Works the same way as a 'normal' damper, just upside down.
Normally, the damper would have a solid frame mount at the top, with the bottom mounting to the swingarm incorporating something to compensate for the arc of movement, like a dogbone or bell crank.
In this case, it's solidly mounted at the bottom and the shorter top run of the swingarm acts like an extra large dogbone, so instead of compressing the damper from the bottom up, this compresses from the top down, if that makes sense? ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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 Posted: 01:25 - 15 Nov 2012 Post subject: |
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Looks to me that it's clearly putting the suspension in tension, i.e. pulling it apart; the suspension's lower mount is to the rear of the swingarm pivot. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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wheel goes up, the bar you see connected to the top of the shock pushes down and vice versa
off topic - nice looking bike, especially that zorst! not too keen on the shape of the front fairing though ____________________ Bandit 600 - deaded |
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And looking at the picture more closely, you can see the bottom link of the bell crank, so it's just like Tommy's diagram of Prolink. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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| Shaft wrote: | And looking at the picture more closely, you can see the bottom link of the bell crank, so it's just like Tommy's diagram of Prolink. |
Right you are, I see it now. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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That is a bit odd, normal discs on front, wavy on the rear. I like the rear brake lever and the zorst  ____________________ KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM |
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 Posted: 09:46 - 15 Nov 2012 Post subject: |
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Cheers Tommy, that diagram really helps, I was stuck with thinking one end of the shock has to be solidly mounted to the frame, and with the top seeming to float free I just assumed the bottom was solidly mounted and not on linkages
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 100 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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