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J4mes
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 18 Nov 2012    Post subject: Servicing my Thundercat Reply with quote

Right, once I've cleared some space in the garage I'm gonna get on and give my 'Cat a good service. When I bought it it had minimal service history and I suppose I should have done it then, but I just wanted to ride it!

Bike is on a 97 plate with 20K on the clocks.

So, what I'm thinking is:

Definitely to do:

Air Filter
Fuel Filter
Oil/Filter
Spark Plugs
Coolant

Possibly to do:

Strip/inspect/ clean carbs
Brake fluid

Should do but scared to:

Valve clearances.

Is there anything I've missed or really should consider doing while I've got it in the garage? Any bits I should specifically check/inspect/test and clean? Probably going to buy a full set of fairing fasteners just in case they are stuck.

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PostPosted: 15:08 - 18 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the bike's running fine I'd leave the carbs. Brake fluid is easy to change - it's when you have an empty system it becomes trickier.

I'd check the wheel bearings while you're doing stuff. Give the bike a good clean and ACF-50ing while it's partially stripped. Maybe have a thing about changing the fork oil.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 18 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stripping, checking and greasing the shock linkages is probably up on the list as well, as is making sure the front and rear axles are both not seized in, well worth a check,clean and grease. They are things that get "forgotten" for years on a lot of bikes.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 18 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

valve clearances on the cat unless your a competent mechanic should be done at a garage they are shim and buckets meaning the camshafts need removing and ordering the correct shim sizes.

A major service would include stripping the fork legs new oil, checking spring free length, change the oil seals and dust seals.

Radiator can be flushed out removing any foreign objects and sludge helping water flow.

checking and adjusting all cables throttle, clutch.

Stripping the brakes splitting them if you can not sure on the cat but remove the pistons change the seals and clean the pistons remove the copper washers and replace them.

you can also get a master cylinder repare kit which would include a new piston, oil seals and spring improving braking performance.

Wheel bearings and sprocket bearing can be replaced easily just use heat and patience, with forks removed the head race bearings can be removed new ones greased and replaced.

fork linkages are often neglected and can be stripped replaced cleaned and refitted.

check the condition of the sprockets, chain, clean lube and adjust.

seems a lot but makes it run a lot better, ride a lot better and will teach you new stuff and learn about your bike and get a good torque wrench if you haven't.

- C spanner for headstock ring nut and locknut.

A large syringe and and pipe for measuring air gap when refilling oil in fork legs.

A heat gun to apply heat to wheel bearings, good hint when refitting put bearings in freezer and when fitting heat up bearing holder should fall in

A quality torque wrench

paddock stand and a scissor jack when doing front forks.

quality 6 sided sockets they lock on to nuts better and don't slip.

see if you can fit Dzus fasteners to the fairings they make removing easier and quicker

Hope this helps.
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J4mes
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 18 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies so far, I've got all the tools I need bar the C-spanner. The forks were done earlier this year so I'll leave them be.

The bike rides and runs fine, but I might get on and give it a refresh while it's off the road

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PostPosted: 16:08 - 18 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawksam wrote:
valve clearances on the cat unless your a competent mechanic should be done at a garage they are shim and buckets meaning the camshafts need removing and ordering the correct shim sizes.

A major service would include stripping the fork legs new oil, checking spring free length, change the oil seals and dust seals.

Radiator can be flushed out removing any foreign objects and sludge helping water flow.

checking and adjusting all cables throttle, clutch.

Stripping the brakes splitting them if you can not sure on the cat but remove the pistons change the seals and clean the pistons remove the copper washers and replace them.

you can also get a master cylinder repare kit which would include a new piston, oil seals and spring improving braking performance.

Wheel bearings and sprocket bearing can be replaced easily just use heat and patience, with forks removed the head race bearings can be removed new ones greased and replaced.

fork linkages are often neglected and can be stripped replaced cleaned and refitted.

check the condition of the sprockets, chain, clean lube and adjust.

seems a lot but makes it run a lot better, ride a lot better and will teach you new stuff and learn about your bike and get a good torque wrench if you haven't.

- C spanner for headstock ring nut and locknut.

A large syringe and and pipe for measuring air gap when refilling oil in fork legs.

A heat gun to apply heat to wheel bearings, good hint when refitting put bearings in freezer and when fitting heat up bearing holder should fall in

A quality torque wrench

paddock stand and a scissor jack when doing front forks.

quality 6 sided sockets they lock on to nuts better and don't slip.

see if you can fit Dzus fasteners to the fairings they make removing easier and quicker

Hope this helps.


And.... New swing arm pivot bearing as they rot in the slat of British Winters.

Brake calipers are a Must Do as they are prone to siezing and grabbing the discs. No matter how well you clean them out a brake lining change time.

How many miles on this bike?
I did the swing arm bearings at 20K. Really coz I wnated to re-paint the swing arm. But when I got it off I found the bearing were shot. Fitting a grease fitting to the housing in there would bae an excellent idea.as the bearings are not the sealed type. You could probably get a sealed option from you local Bearing Services if you give them a sample.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 18 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't get a Haynes manuel but find a proper workshop manual off eBay from a garage.
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 18 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd do the important stuff first to keep it running well, and get the valve clearances checked if you can't do it yourself.

Then id treat things like the rear suspension linkages as a rolling on going project. Unless the bike is going to be laid up off the road all winter, it's a bit of a mission in one go to do all the service scheduled items and strip and re-build the front and back ends of the bike all in one go IMO.

If there's plenty of antifreeze in the cooling system and no leaks, you could leave flushing the rad and cooling system until after risk of heavy frosts and do this in the spring.

The brakes will obviously need attention as and when neccessary to keep them freed up and working effectively. But stripping the rear shock linkage and swing arm pivot bushes and re-painting everything, to me seems pretty pointless if you going to ride the bike through the salty winter weather. You might as well renovate the back end after the worst of winter when it's seen the worst that winter can throw at it.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 18 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard about Cats that didn't need adjusting for longer intervals than that, but then mine needed a couple of shims at the major service.

I think most of it has been covered above; mine is an almost identical bike to th OP's in age and mileage, and has has things like the shock linkages checked and greased, but no change needed. I also changed the front pads this summer and all 8 pistons pushed back with fingers; that's the first set of pads it has had since new.

It depends how deep you want to go. If it ain't broke...
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PostPosted: 03:17 - 19 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

weasley wrote:
I've heard about Cats that didn't need adjusting for longer intervals than that, but then mine needed a couple of shims at the major service.

I think most of it has been covered above; mine is an almost identical bike to th OP's in age and mileage, and has has things like the shock linkages checked and greased, but no change needed. I also changed the front pads this summer and all 8 pistons pushed back with fingers; that's the first set of pads it has had since new.

It depends how deep you want to go. If it ain't broke...


^^^Dis.

It's a check at 24K miles on most engines which won't 'normally' involve anything major. Do buy the gaskets for the covers though as once disturbed they 'as if by magic' start pissing oil everywhere Smile . And if your into the airbox anyway you may as well go the extra 3-1/2" and whip the valve cover for the check off too.

The issue with leaving the coolant in over winter is you need to know how much Antifreeze is in there. That means buying a meter or tester. Antifreeze for a bike is about £15 not much more or less for good stuff. Once filled it will be good for two-three years. (unless you buy the extended life stuff), I have NEVER tested A-freeze on a bike. I just change at 2yrs or so.

And we need Pictures/MS Paint diagram/s of work/tasks completed or this Mid-Life service never happened. Karma
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice and info, gonna give it a consumables service in the next few weeks and then a proper job in the spring time ready for a summer of riding!

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