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Davenaylor
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Army Surplus Boots Reply with quote

Hi,

I did a search and found quite a few people recommended these https://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/160913896797?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&adtype=pla&crdt=0

My question would be, do they offer enough ankle protection compared to a proper boot and in your view does it matter i.e. if your foots coming off its coming off, right?

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PostPosted: 15:15 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Army Surplus Boots Reply with quote

Loads of people on here use them and rate them highly.


Personally, I prefer motorcycle boots with zips and hard bits.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say the boots are fine and I wear similar myself. But I had a bad experience from that seller (guardsarmygear). He sent me a too small jacket because he was out of the size I ordered. He didn't contact me about it at all, if he had I'd have opted to receive a larger size which he did have in stock. He's done the same several times before when I checked his feedback. AND, he sells shit as Goretex when it isn't, it's MPV and it leaks after a month or two. Sad
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

People have used army boots in the past without any problems as far as I can recall.

When I was starting out I used a pair of normal boots. However found the gear lever knackered them. Now I guess you can use something like shoe protectors (at the risk of being dressed like a chav).

https://www.getgeared.co.uk/core/media/media.nl?id=11522&c=731612&h=dd8e5e5db121d391ce6dclick on image for link
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I think surplus boots are too big and chunky for a bike. Also have a deep set hatred of them after being in the forces.

You can get a proper set of waterproof boots from Ghostbikes for £30-40.
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have those boots and rate them very highly. Dunno what happens in an accident, but can guarantee that they are very very very waterproof. As in I waded through ankle deep puddles in them and they didnt let a single drop in.

But, the gear lever will scuff up the top side of your left boot.

I wear them off the bike quite often when the weather is shit, good grip, comfortable, don't smell. For £30, bargain I'd say.

Saying that, they don't come up high enough for leathers to tuck into, so if you want your textiles to go over them/tuck into them, you're gonna need either different boots or longer gear.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Army Surplus Boots Reply with quote

Davenaylor wrote:
My question would be, do they offer enough ankle protection compared to a proper boot

Not really.

Davenaylor wrote:
and in your view does it matter

Not really.

I take mine off for bath time, sexy time, pedalling time, or any combination of them. Yes, they're a compromise, but they do 90% of things 90% as well as a specialist shoe. People meet the Queen in them.

As to the waterproofing, I'll confirm that they passed the "6 hours sloshing ankle deep through a Highland peat bog in a lashing rainstorm" test, as well as anything biking related that I've thrown at them. Just keep putting polish or dubbin on.

Oh, doing up the laces was bugging me, so I replaced them with elastic ones (eBay, elastic / triathlon laces). Amazing things, changed my life. I'll not knot again.
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Army Surplus Boots Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Davenaylor wrote:
My question would be, do they offer enough ankle protection compared to a proper boot

Not really.


Probably more than the majority of bike boots that are built for comfort and looks rather than for durability.

Short of wearing Sidi Courier boots the protection afforded by most motorcycle boots is woeful and even Sidi Courier and most Motocross boots suffer from having exposed latches that have been known to open in the event of an accident.
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Army Surplus Boots Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:


Probably more than the majority of bike boots that are built for comfort and looks rather than for durability.

Short of wearing Sidi Courier boots the protection afforded by most motorcycle boots is woeful and even Sidi Courier and most Motocross boots suffer from having exposed latches that have been known to open in the event of an accident.

I was thinking this. Especially my shitty ones. I've bought them, worst comes to worst I have some walking boots.

Cheers for the replys.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont buy them. The Pro-boot had large batches of faulty boots where the sole and heel just fell apart. There is no way of telling whether you're getting the good ones or the bad ones.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

To late and there is way, when the fall apart Confused
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

All well and good, but for me, lace ups ara a PITA. Much prefer a simple zip and velcrow effort, it takes long enough as it is to gear up for a ride.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Army Surplus Boots Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Oh, doing up the laces was bugging me, so I replaced them with elastic ones (eBay, elastic / triathlon laces). Amazing things, changed my life. I'll not knot again.

You sir, are a genius!
Not because I too am lazy when it comes to laces (but I may well get a set of these for myself too) but because my autistic son who just can't get the hang of laces even at 14 years old will now be able to wear normal shoes because of your post.
Never even THOUGHT about those kinds of laces lol Smile
It's bad enough getting a pair of size 13 shoes at the best of times, let alone a slip on/velcro one. You've just saved me a shit ton of money.
Thanks.

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PostPosted: 22:11 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Army Surplus Boots Reply with quote

MoreBeer wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

Oh, doing up the laces was bugging me, so I replaced them with elastic ones (eBay, elastic / triathlon laces). Amazing things, changed my life. I'll not knot again.

You sir, are a genius!
Not because I too am lazy when it comes to laces (but I may well get a set of these for myself too) but because my autistic sone who just can't get the hang of laces even at 14 years old will now be able to wear normal shoes because of your post.
Never even THOUGHT about those kinds of laces lol Smile
It's bad enough getting a size 13 shoe at the best of times, let alone a slip on/velcro one. You've just saved me a shit ton of money.
Thanks.


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PostPosted: 22:14 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Army Surplus Boots Reply with quote

MoreBeer wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

Oh, doing up the laces was bugging me, so I replaced them with elastic ones (eBay, elastic / triathlon laces). Amazing things, changed my life. I'll not knot again.

You sir, are a genius!
Not because I too am lazy when it comes to laces (but I may well get a set of these for myself too) but because my autistic sone who just can't get the hang of laces even at 14 years old will now be able to wear normal shoes because of your post.
Never even THOUGHT about those kinds of laces lol Smile
It's bad enough getting a size 13 shoe at the best of times, let alone a slip on/velcro one. You've just saved me a shit ton of money.
Thanks.
Silvermans sell zip up panels that you can lace into boots. You lace them once and use the zip thereafter. Hope this link works.
https://www.silvermans.co.uk/ProductDetails/tabid/89/Department/Military/Category/FOOTWEAR+ACCESSORIES/Description/BLACK+ZIPITS/ItemId/1569/CurrentPage/0/Default.aspx
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Army Surplus Boots Reply with quote

yen_powell wrote:
Silvermans sell zip up panels that you can lace into boots. You lace them once and use the zip thereafter.

I have a set of them in my Magnum boots. Proper lazy man's method, and I love it. Stops the liner 'sock' from coming out, too, since I can splay the boots properly when getting them off my feet.
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 20 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Army Surplus Boots Reply with quote

yen_powell wrote:
Silvermans sell zip up panels that you can lace into boots. You lace them once and use the zip thereafter. Hope this link works.
https://www.silvermans.co.uk/ProductDetails/tabid/89/Department/Military/Category/FOOTWEAR+ACCESSORIES/Description/BLACK+ZIPITS/ItemId/1569/CurrentPage/0/Default.aspx

Thanks, we did try these actually, but they didn't fit very well in the boots he had to wear for his motor mechanics course at school. The laces Rogerborg linked should be ideal..Cheap enough that it's no hassle to try anyway Smile
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PostPosted: 02:23 - 21 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wear rigger boots and keep them well polished. Keeps the wet off, they are comfy and warm.
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PostPosted: 03:15 - 21 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conon wrote:
Dont buy them. The Pro-boot had large batches of faulty boots where the sole and heel just fell apart. There is no way of telling whether you're getting the good ones or the bad ones.


No they didn't.

What they did have was large amounts especially odd sized ones realised from the MOD that were over 8 years old and had started to perish although there were no signs of this until such time as you wore them. As all pro-boots have a manufacture date on the tongue it is easy to check when they were made.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 21 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd recommend the goretex ones - slightly comfier and while they can't handle all bike-rain problems, are a lot better than normal ones.

Fine for walking in water (below the top of the boot) and not getting your feet wet at all.

I've crashed in them a good few times and been pleased with the performance.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 21 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would imagine most people will think their boots are fine (as long as they haven't fell apart and meet the criteria they wanted in the first place such as waterproofness) up until the point they're really put to the test when someone drives into your leg. I specifically bought boots with ankle protection because the ankle protection in my boyfriends Sidi boots stopped his ankle being squished to a pulp. I'm sure Army surplus boots are fine, until someone drives into your leg...
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 21 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

yaigi wrote:
I specifically bought boots with ankle protection because the ankle protection in my boyfriends Sidi boots stopped his ankle being squished to a pulp. I'm sure Army surplus boots are fine, until someone drives into your leg...

Out of interest, how do you know it was the ankle protection in your boyfriends boots that stopped his ankle being squished?

Did you run a repeat test with other boots?

All too often we see any protection as a holy-miracle and injuries with said protection as par for the course.

The only time I have hurt the area covered by boots I was wearing top spec Sidi boots.
Tib and Fib snapped like a twig under the boots.

If I'd been wearing even stiffer boots, I suspect I'd have just snapped my legs further up.

Motorcycle clothing can move and disperse energy over space and time, but not get rid of it.
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 21 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Army Surplus Boots Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
...I take mine off for ... sexy time...

Pervert!
Or is it just me and leather? Embarassed

On topic some bike boots like Akito Miami are cheap and are waterproof (ish - wear waterproof inner socks best bet anyhow). They also have the distinct advantage of you being able to walk in them when off the bike.

Different emphasis, bike boots you can walk in as opposed to army boots designed for walking that you can get by with on a bike. I guess you pays your money and make your choice.
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 21 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
yaigi wrote:
I specifically bought boots with ankle protection because the ankle protection in my boyfriends Sidi boots stopped his ankle being squished to a pulp. I'm sure Army surplus boots are fine, until someone drives into your leg...

Out of interest, how do you know it was the ankle protection in your boyfriends boots that stopped his ankle being squished?

Did you run a repeat test with other boots?

All too often we see any protection as a holy-miracle and injuries with said protection as par for the course.

The only time I have hurt the area covered by boots I was wearing top spec Sidi boots.
Tib and Fib snapped like a twig under the boots.

If I'd been wearing even stiffer boots, I suspect I'd have just snapped my legs further up.

Motorcycle clothing can move and disperse energy over space and time, but not get rid of it.


The paramedics reckoned so, as did the doctors who saw to him; the point of impact was straight into the side of him, they were amazed that the ankle was not broken, just very very badly bruised and I suspect now possibly a fracture that wasn't noticed as he still has trouble with it to this day. The ankle protection in the boots cracked, it would have been his ankle if it was not there. But yeah, I get your point, no mythbusters style testing was done to confirm this Wink
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