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tris88
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 21 Nov 2012    Post subject: Bike blown over Reply with quote

Got home this evening to find my bike on it's side Crying or Very sad I was told by a neighbour that it blew over around 13:00 and she tried to pick it up for me but it was too heavy for her to move.

There's only a couple of scuffs and looks like it's made a hole in the cover but what other things should I check like fluid etc.

I noticed if I put it in gear and hold the clutch in that it still drags like the clutch isn't fully disengaged (this is all with the engine off as figured I'd leave it to stand upright over night before doing anything). Could this be anything to do with the oil being over the opposite side of the engine to the clutch for half a day? The cable and clutch lever seem to be ok and have the same feeling as before.

Anyone any thoughts?

Needless to say I'm gutted as last weekend gave it a good going over sorting out all the niggles. Neutral

Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 21 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just check all the levels, and your suspected holed case.

Then give it a run. Should be fine. Clutch should be fine assuming nothing's been knocked out of place.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 21 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great thanks, btw by hole in cover I meant the bike cover which probably caused it to catch the wind in the first place! Hence I've left the cover off tonight.
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

was it on the centre stand?
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, my hornet doesn't have a centre stand. It blew it over away from the side stand though so it had further to go!
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to say it, but did it blow over or did some scrote try to steal it?

If it was on the sidestand and it blew over the opposite side, that must of been one hell of a wind.

Sorry to put that thought in your head, but better I do and you make your bike more secure than coming home one day and finding no bike.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that was my first thought but a neighbour was in when it happened as she heard the alarm (guessing the cover flapping set it off) then watched it go over (from flats so it's not like she could run and stop it happening).

I didn't think the wind was that bad but I was in an office all day so what do I know Confused .

I still don't believe it though, stupid nature!
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

tris88 wrote:
Well that was my first thought but a neighbour was in when it happened as she heard the alarm (guessing the cover flapping set it off) then watched it go over (from flats so it's not like she could run and stop it happening).

I didn't think the wind was that bad but I was in an office all day so what do I know Confused .

I still don't believe it though, stupid nature!


Really? As said, that must have either been bloody strong wind OR did you you park it correctly. By that I mean so the road camber is allowing the bike to lean on the side stand and not the other way round.
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In high winds you really should remove any bike covers as they tend to act like a sail and drag the bike over.

I used to park my bikes on a pathway at the top of a windy hill as it was outside my front door where the ground anchor was. One night I was woken from my deep sleep by the sound of its alarm siren. I jumped out of bed expecting to see a bunch of chavscum outside but instead saw my beautiful bike on it's side (with cover still attached) and one hell of a gale blowing.

I left it and went back to bed. It would only have blown over again. Sad

After this I began to tether the bike down in high winds using bungees and tent pegs in the lawn. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a bad idea!

Yup, as soon as I heard it happened I assumed it went over on the side stand because it really does lean that way! I think because it's in a car park with buildings either side it acts like a wind tunnel.

That's the only explanation I can come up with anyway!
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I park my bike at home next to the wall where the wall anchor is, on its side stand, leaning towards the wall, and the chain obviously attached to the leaning side of the bike and the wall anchor. So even if wind gusts were American-hurricane strength, besides the fact that the bike is sheltered by the wall to begin with, the chain would hold it from toppling over the other side.

Any chance you can park it in a similar way?
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've checked your profile and you are geographically not far from me. There were some bloody strong gusts yesterday, that lasted about 3 hours. I worried a bit for my bike but it was uncovered so it was fine, if it had a cover I'm sure it would have gone over too if the wind hit it sideways. On the way home several bushes/branches had been blown off trees and on to the road. Seems pretty likely to me that your bike blew over rather than was pushed over, it never helps to 'pretend' someone tried to nick it to do a bit of a security review though Wink
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestion Dino but I'm kind of stuck with how it is currently. (see attached without the cover on). I'm on the top floor of the block opposite so have no walls I can attach too (although there are plant borders all around so couldn't even if I was on the ground floor).

Covent - Cheers that helps put my mind at rest, it's as secure as it's going to get to be honest but won't be in the flat forever and the aim is the next place will have a garage Smile.
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Bike blown over Reply with quote

tris88 wrote:
...what other things should I check like fluid etc....

Might be worth checking the battery is ok. Check fluid levels and for any obvious damage.

Bike batteries by definition are small and the plates are close together. With a fall or spill it is easy to damage one or more cells. Battery may appear ok, as in start the bike, but life expectancy diminished.

Some battery testers/chargers can tell you the condition of the cells. Might be worth putting it on an Accumate/Optimate charger anyhow.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a nice ground anchor in the above piccy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: Bike blown over Reply with quote

map wrote:
tris88 wrote:
...what other things should I check like fluid etc....

Might be worth checking the battery is ok. Check fluid levels and for any obvious damage.

Bike batteries by definition are small and the plates are close together. With a fall or spill it is easy to damage one or more cells. Battery may appear ok, as in start the bike, but life expectancy diminished.

Some battery testers/chargers can tell you the condition of the cells. Might be worth putting it on an Accumate/Optimate charger anyhow.


Cheers, I'll definitely do that (although I think the cold weather is gradually killing mine off anyway along with help from the alarm)
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeddy11 wrote:
Thats a nice ground anchor in the above piccy Thumbs Up


Haha, I felt quite lucky to have that option (friendly with the people in that maisonette and they didn't mind it right in front of their door)
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

tris88 wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion Dino but I'm kind of stuck with how it is currently.


Hmmm I see.
Couldn't you park it right next to the light post, side stand leaning towards the post, and chained to the post by its frame? So any wind would either blow it towards the post, or away from it and the chain would keep it from falling over the other side.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonDino wrote:
tris88 wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion Dino but I'm kind of stuck with how it is currently.


Hmmm I see.
Couldn't you park it right next to the light post, side stand leaning towards the post, and chained to the post by its frame? So any wind would either blow it towards the post, or away from it and the chain would keep it from falling over the other side.


I think I'll give this a go or see if it's possible. You can't really see in the pic but that tarmac next to the patch I park on is raised an inch above what it's parked on so as long as it doesn't tilt the bike over too much on it's stand then it's a goer!

Thinking back to last night any other suggestions why the clutch might not be disengaging properly after the drop or it's something that might right itself after sitting for a while.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been VERY windy today!

I notice from the picture that your bike is quite exposed. It's very similar to how the bike across the road from me is parked and I've been watching it wobble since I got home o.O

Maybe try tucking it back against a wall somewhere? Mine is parked up against my house wall on its centre-stand and is hardly fluttering.

My 125 blew over last year and after getting it back upright, I let it stand for an hour or so to let all the levels right themselves (as it were) and then gave it a try. Not sure if that's what you're meant to do but it worked for me Wink
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 23 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just whack in a stake on the same side as the stand as far away from the bike as possible without going onto driveway (from the pic it looks like it's on hardcore rather than driveway). Then get a secure tie (like they use to secure bikes in back of vans) and attach to handlebar and stake (take up as much as the slack as poss). Shouldn't go over then. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 23 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

willis1337 wrote:
Just whack in a stake on the same side as the stand as far away from the bike as possible without going onto driveway (from the pic it looks like it's on hardcore rather than driveway). Then get a secure tie (like they use to secure bikes in back of vans) and attach to handlebar and stake (take up as much as the slack as poss). Shouldn't go over then. Thumbs Up


I think I'll give that a go. It survived last night with natures harassments with the cover off so that can always be an option if it's going to be very windy.

Haven't had a chance to go over the bike properly yet but will do tomorrow before giving it a good ride.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 23 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wind is going to be bad again tomorrow so maybe leave the cover off?
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 23 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
The wind is going to be bad again tomorrow so maybe leave the cover off?


Thanks, yeh I was planning to leave it off until it calmed down again. Was sickening to see it on it's side so wanting to avoid a repeat Smile
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 23 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can get some wooden wedges or heavy bricks either side of the tyres, will help a little bit.

Or bits of wood from the ground to the bike to stop it going from side to side.
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