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kevinheb
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Riding in the wind - nearly got killed Reply with quote

I have been riding since August and have been really enjoying it, as I left work tonight I noticed that the wind seemed really strong. I have a 25 mile commute from Weston to Bristol along the A370. It was absolute hell, at one point on the Long Ashton Bypass I actually got blown onto the oncoming vehicles, and i really don't know what I could have done to prevent it (except not to have ridden today, but I had no idea of the conditions when I set off this morning). The wind was REALLY strong, all the way home I was being blown to my right, and steering to the left was at times impossible.

Does anyone have any advice for riding safely in these conditions? It's really thrown me, and made me question whether I'll continue riding.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on the bike, i find gripping the tank with your knees and inside of your leg help a bit, other than that, just to grit your teeth and get on with it, or use the cage if you have that luxury Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigger heavier bikes are better, and bikes with enclosing fairings are often worse than naked styles in crosswinds.
You can get cues as to where wind might be stronger or weaker in daylight but it gets difficult after dark.
Truth is very windy weather is best avoided riding in if you don't have to.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there

Is it posable to find a more sheltered route home ? Might take a bit longer but might be safer ?

I have 2 routes, my normal one and one that is a bit longer but has high hedges that protect me from the wind.

Also a good tip, look at the trees, bushes on the side of the road if there are any. They will let you know in advance of any strong cross winds Wink
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A motorcycle isn't really an all-weather mode of transport, despite the testosterone-dripping posts you see here sometimes. A YBR 125 is no match for 60 mph gusts. Take the bus, or the car. There's no shame in it.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

esullivan wrote:
A motorcycle isn't really an all-weather mode of transport, despite the testosterone-dripping posts you see here sometimes. A YBR 125 is no match for 60 mph gusts. Take the bus, or the car. There's no shame in it.


We don't all have another option.
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I left the YBR at home today for the first time in months, just far too gusty for my NSL commute.

I keep my eyes on the weather reports, if it says gusts are above 35mph I tend to leave the bike in the garage.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use your feet, stomping grapes style as in off road riding. push down on windside peg. dont be afraid to lean the bike so that you are not riding upright
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
esullivan wrote:
A motorcycle isn't really an all-weather mode of transport, despite the testosterone-dripping posts you see here sometimes. A YBR 125 is no match for 60 mph gusts. Take the bus, or the car. There's no shame in it.


We don't all have another option.


Yes, of course, but the OP says he's only been riding since August. Must have done something before then, surely?

Anyway, if you don't have an option, then another, less exposed route would be good, or follow Kradmelder's advice and press down on the footpegs on the windward side. As hard as it sounds, hold the handlebars loosely.
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigger bikes do help, had 50mph gusts here,.luckily my commute only sees me exposed for 20% of the journey and i know where the pockets are, learn that and it'll help, sure.you'll get random ones, but the main ones learnt will help, my machine is 220kg and low center of gravity n full on faring and I don't have too much problem, that said tomorrow apparently worse for me!
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kradmelder wrote:
Use your feet, stomping grapes style as in off road riding. push down on windside peg. dont be afraid to lean the bike so that you are not riding upright


Even better, on road, you can stick your knee into the wind. The extra drag on that side helps keep the bike going straight without having to lean it or anything like that Wink
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
Kradmelder wrote:
Use your feet, stomping grapes style as in off road riding. push down on windside peg. dont be afraid to lean the bike so that you are not riding upright


Even better, on road, you can stick your knee into the wind. The extra drag on that side helps keep the bike going straight without having to lean it or anything like that Wink


I will try I can still learn something from you tar riders Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a simerler moment today when a gust blew me towards a traffic island. However I knew the prevailing wind direction was from the left so I had adjusted my road position to the left in anticipation of a gust blowing me towards the right. This is what you need to do. It saved me today.

The really scary stuff is when on a wet road a gust actually slides you sideways. I had this happen a couple of months ago. When this hapens there's nothing you can do but hang on. Again riding on a side of your lane that's on the side of the wind direction gives you a fighting chance of servival.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

First time I overtook a lorry in high winds I popped out in front of an open field, couldn't get back on to my side of the road and pooped myself a little bit. Knee out, drag pulled me back over.

Disaster averted.

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PostPosted: 19:07 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Counter steering when the wind is gusting from one side will keep your bike going in a straight line, although the bike will lean over at the same time. You have to apply the pressure to the bars as the gusts hit so a bit of concentration (the fear helps keep you focussed!!) and react as the wind hits you.

Ducking down presents less of a target to the wind and lowers your centre of gravity. You will look like you're trying to go faster to other drivers but sometimes it's the only way you can stay safe.

If you are on a motorway and have to overtake a lorry in bad side winds then duck down as low as you can and accelerate past the front edge of the lorry which is where you will get a sudden gust more powerful than behind or at the side of large vehicles. If you're already going at max speed then shut the throttle and open it again before you pass the front, it's acceleration you want more than the speed.

Look ahead for the gaps in hedges and trees on the side the wind is coming from so you know when it's going to get worse. Plan overtakes for the sheltered parts if possible.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
Kradmelder wrote:
Use your feet, stomping grapes style as in off road riding. push down on windside peg. dont be afraid to lean the bike so that you are not riding upright


Even better, on road, you can stick your knee into the wind. The extra drag on that side helps keep the bike going straight without having to lean it or anything like that Wink


Some folk can tuck themselves in behind the bubble and grip the tank with their knees for dear life.

Others like me, and perhaps Slacker (but I don't know), are big buggers and just embrace the fact we are giant wind breaks.
I tend to try and keep the bike upright (depends if the wind is unpredictable) and hang off it with a leg windbreak.

Oh, and pray Smile
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

yen_powell wrote:

Look ahead for the gaps in hedges and trees on the side the wind is coming from so you know when it's going to get worse. Plan overtakes for the sheltered parts if possible.


I also do this for gear changes (not such a problem on a bigger bike). But on a 125, if I can see a gap in the hedge and know its going to get gusty, I'll hold off the gear change until passed it. Otherwise the loss of power is instant and the wind can shove you easily.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Protip: Wherever you see a telegraph pole, there is usually an entrance of some kind. Check it out on your next ride Wink
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have actually hated being on bike coming home from work tonight.. my saxo was getting blown all over the place on the M25 Laughing

Very fucking strong wind.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fit a sail to your bike and use the wind power to save fuel Smile
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
Even better, on road, you can stick your knee into the wind. The extra drag on that side helps keep the bike going straight without having to lean it or anything like that Wink


I tried this today, 60mph gusts on the south coast forecast, and my route included a river bridge, over the Adur. It's still a safer option than the elevated section of A27 nearby (the only other route) Rolling Eyes

Stuck my knee out in the direction the wind was coming from, loosened right up and hunkered down a bit. I could feel the force of the wind/gusts cancelling itself out, if that makes sense. No problems at all riding home.

I had waterproofs on as well which might have reduced drag.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all good advice from the old timers here.
I've been riding for over 25 years and I've never not ridden because of the wind.... but I often change routes to avoid exposed & busy sections.

I'm on a 250cc at the moment, so it's not as bad as a 125, but not as heavy as the 500cc plus.

One tip, which I haven't spotted here, simply slow down. I normally pootle along at 50-60 mph on one stretch of road, but today it was 30-40 mph. This wasn't because of a headwind, the wind was behind in fact, but at slower speeds you will have much more control. I'm still riding so it's not wimping out.

And one more comment, you could always take a rest halfway through the journey, just to relax & re-focus.

Strangely enough, the worst bit today was when I was stationary at a set of lights and a gust was funnelled between 2 buildings.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 22 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coming back from holiday in Scotland a couple of years ago, the weather was really bad. Winds were blowing at over 50 mph, with stronger gusts.

I was passed by two bikers, with pillions on an exposed moor!

I would estimate that they were leaning into the wind by at least 20-30 degrees!

Either very brave or very stupid!

Although, I have to say, I was very impressed with their skills! Karma

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PostPosted: 00:10 - 23 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

numpty2 wrote:

One tip, which I haven't spotted here, simply slow down. I normally pootle along at 50-60 mph on one stretch of road, but today it was 30-40 mph. This wasn't because of a headwind, the wind was behind in fact, but at slower speeds you will have much more control..


he's right, i took it a bit easier on my commute home, made it much easier.
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 23 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just slow down Thumbs Up Worked for me when I was leaving London today, and fuck it was windy! For some reason I thought built up places were immune from it Laughing
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