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stranger12
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: two bikes, two insurance , is it wise? Reply with quote

hi all ,

i have a discussion going on , on the topic of choosing my next big bike. at the moment i have a sym 125 and have paid around 500 pounds to insure it for a year and £15 to tax it for a full year. It is brand new so no mot

However, as I would love to get my hand on a bigger bike , I am planning to get a big bike . Currently trying to choose between sv650 and fz6( think FZ6) will be the winner.

My questions are as follow :
1. Are there any multi bike insurance around ? I am 24 with 5 years NCB on car and hopefully 1 year NCB on bike next year March.

2. Do you think I am being stupid by keeping two bikes thus two tax, two insurance and etc ?

3. Is the maintenance cost of a bike big significant ?

4. Any other things that I should be aware of

Many thanks in advance to all replies
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two bikes and pay 2 x insurance, 2 registrations every year etc. sure it costs more.

The real question is: do you want 2 bikes for 2 different needs and can you afford it?

You obviously want 2 bikes for 2 purposes. Your little toy for commuting and a bigger bike for fun.

The bigger bike will cost you more to commute if you only had that.

The savings on running costs on the small bike wont equal the expense of insurance, taxes, depreciation of the big bike.

Certianly your expenses will increase as you can only ride 1 at a time and insurance and taxes are the same now matter how much you ride.

It isnt a financial decision really. It is what you want. Riding is for fun. I wouldnt see riding a toy as fun, and I dont need to worry about saving money. So I have 2 big bikes.

Get the big bike. In time you will sell the 125 as surplus to needs. It will be too boring.


You will want to take a pillion, go away on trips etc. The bigger bike will be more versatile, at the expense of a bit more on running costs.

Go for it. You can wake up each morning and ask yourself which bike should I ride today, like a polygamist asking himself which wife should I screw today Mr. Green . Or you can see it like I do, as one is the wife for day to day run around, long trips, and comfort, and one is the mistress for a wild sexy romp. And neither mind sharing a garage nor get jealous Mr. Green

Far better situation to be in than the ou on his 125 counting his pennies and having to ride the same old tired breaking down bird. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am tired of my 125 as it is slow struggling to pick up and can say i am beaten by almost anything that has a wheel , whether it is 2 or 4. Maybe i could beat a 2 cylinder car or a 3-4 ton van but thats about it.

i am quite heavy ( around 20 stone) and sometime have a pillion with me and can see that the bike is really struggling on picking up/braking

the thing is because my bike is new , i don't want to sell it as of it as i bought it for around 1600 and now have to sell it for around 900 or less so might as well use it

what is the running costs on a big bike ? is it high? is it just oil and sparks and how often ?

thanks mate
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stranger12 wrote:
i am tired of my 125 as it is slow struggling to pick up and can say i am beaten by almost anything that has a wheel , whether it is 2 or 4. Maybe i could beat a 2 cylinder car or a 3-4 ton van but thats about it.

i am quite heavy ( around 20 stone) and sometime have a pillion with me and can see that the bike is really struggling on picking up/braking

the thing is because my bike is new , i don't want to sell it as of it as i bought it for around 1600 and now have to sell it for around 900 or less so might as well use it

what is the running costs on a big bike ? is it high? is it just oil and sparks and how often ?

thanks mate


Dont know. Im not in the UK and I have DS bikes, which are much bigger than you want and chew up tyres. I made a spreadsheet of my expenses and it is about teh same as running my 4x4. Roadbikes are far less to run. For one tyres last twice as long.

I also have a heavy wrist, and dont try and save money.

Tyres are a major expense, especially back tyres. The more power the faster the bike eats tyres. I get 7000 km on a back tyre at most.

If you byke runs on synthetic oil, it is pricier.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stranger12 wrote:
...i bought it for around 1600 and now have to sell it for around 900...

Why?
Ballpark figures can be got from WiseBuyers.co.uk and there are others to compare too (do a google).

If you are buying another bike would that be from a dealer. A trade-in would save you hassle (but you'll get a lower price than selling private).

stranger12 wrote:
what is the running costs on a big bike ? is it high? is it just oil and sparks and how often ?

A bigger bike is not that economical on fuel. So where you might fill a 125 up once a week bigger bike allow 2 or 3 times a week (depending on journey type obviously).

Bigger bike still wears out tyres. Should not be as harsh as 20 stone on a 125 though but still there. To get more performance/life out of your bike reduce weight. I'm speaking from experience here (see avatar, fat man on a bike!). Service internal still there and the oil/air filter and stuff costs more, so does the heavier duty chain and sprockets (let's hear it for the old shaft drive).

As to OP on insurance. There are multi-bike insurers. Carole Nash do them (do them first before getting another quote) and IIRC if you get the right options eBike does it too. There may be others, google is your friend.

I would suggest if keeping 125 it's used as a winter/commuter/runaround bike.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Hastings do a multibike policy, I use them - phone and get a quote

2. Not stupid having 2 bikes, many people do. I have an FZ6 that is my usual runabout and the bike I used when I was instructing, and a ZX7R for trackdays and sillyness.
Different bikes for different things.

3. Maintenance depends on the bike and your skill, how much can you do yourself? How bothered are you about taking it somewhere for a service to get a stamp in the book?

4. I think having 2 bikes is fun if they are different enough to make it worthwhile.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
1. Hastings do a multibike policy, I use them - phone and get a quote...

By all means get a quote. Useful to compare with eBike and Carole Nash.

However, if you search on this forum you may find Hastings has a poor reputation when if the worst happens you need to claim (e.g. this thread).
Not saying don't use them, just with any insurance company they are not your friend so caveat emptor and all that.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

got few quotes from them and ebike and all turned out to be expensive

at the moment i am with mce and looking at gocompare the cost of insuring my sym next year after having 1 year ncb is around 300 . i will be 25 then

cost of insuring fazer is the same around 400ish

so if i insure then separately it would be around 800 or less but hasting quoted me ( £700 ) for my sym or 1200 for fazer , silly money

the thing is I can only use the NCB on one bike so my sym would be around 400ish and my fazer 400 with 1 year NCB this adds up to 800 as mentioned above, do you guys think that multi bike policy can do any better ?
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 26 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stranger12 wrote:
got few quotes from them and ebike and all turned out to be expensive

at the moment i am with mce and looking at gocompare the cost of insuring my sym next year after having 1 year ncb is around 300 . i will be 25 then

cost of insuring fazer is the same around 400ish

so if i insure then separately it would be around 800 or less but hasting quoted me ( £700 ) for my sym or 1200 for fazer , silly money

the thing is I can only use the NCB on one bike so my sym would be around 400ish and my fazer 400 with 1 year NCB this adds up to 800 as mentioned above, do you guys think that multi bike policy can do any better ?


its simple. 2 bikes cost more. big bike costs more.

Now just answer to yourself, do you want to enjoy your ride or do you want to get around as cheap as possible?

if you want to save pennies, stay on the 125. if you are a biker at heart, you will pay more to ride your ride.

You are either a biker, or a person on who uses 2 wheels as a cheap form of transport. The latter case, we have nothing in common.
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 27 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

makes sense

I am not looking for a cheap mean of getting from A to B . But i am also a car enthusiastic and have 2 cars( 1 been on sorn) so i am struggling to justify cost of 1 car and two bikes if i only use one of them at any one time for short distance travel

i think will still get the 650 like sv650 or fz6 but maybe after selling my 125 or don't know maybe keep them both
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