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Matt B
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 12 Nov 2012    Post subject: Getting fed up with all the SPAM! Reply with quote

Is it just me or does there seem to be a massive SPAM explosion lately?
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 12 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes and the auto revoke function means rating spam, spam is bad for your karma
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 12 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
Yes and the auto revoke function means rating spam, spam is bad for your karma


Why is it being auto revoked ? https://www.bikechatforums.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=82732
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 12 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair though, you do get what you pay for.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 12 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
Yes and the auto revoke function means rating spam, spam is bad for your karma

Please don't think that by using the spam rating on actual spammers you're doing anything but helping keep the forum tidy... It helps by temporarily hiding the posts, but most importantly it makes it easy to find spam accounts which may be burying their spam in random/old threads and brings those accounts to the attention of me & the mods. At that point we press the big red 'nuke' button and the whole account goes bye-bye, and any auto-revokes it might have gotten cease to matter.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 27 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

By CVV, do they mean credit card details? Lots of very very dodgy spam on here at the moment...
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 27 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
By CVV, do they mean credit card details? Lots of very very dodgy spam on here at the moment...


Fairly certain you are right. Deleted loads of their thread recently and nuked the accounts.

All the best

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CaNsA
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 27 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are they creating accounts?

Is the captcha thingy a bit pants?
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 27 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Captcha is fairly useless. By the time it gets hard enough to stop bots then most people can't read it.

All the best

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CaNsA
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 27 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a random image pulled from a library of say 10 and a question box asking 1 of 3 questions that change each time the page is loaded relating to that image?

Sound good?
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 27 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Entirely possible. Main thing to do is make the system different from all the other phpbb forums. But some spammers will no doubt just be people being paid pennies to register all over the place.

However that is up to Korn.

Gmail email accounts make life easy for the spammers. You can add full stops to the first part and they are ignored by google, but will appear as different email addresses to most site. Similarly you can add a plus to the end of the first part and anything after that is ignored by google.

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:15 - 27 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Show loads of thumbnail images.

"Find the nobcat".

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PostPosted: 09:42 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i47.tinypic.com/27yvg94.png

Y U NO instaban new accounts based on keywords that they use over and over and over again? Eh?
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why/How has your BCF got the blues?
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
Why/How has your BCF got the blues?


He is special!
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) These are humans creating accounts. They're paid to sit there in china/india/wherever and post spam using proxies installed onto spyware-infested home computers in the UK/US/europe. It's far cheaper to pay for human spam than to come up with a spam bot that actually works these days.

2) Of the last 100 accounts removed using the "nuke spammer" mod tool, only 4 had gmail accounts. Most spammers aren't using gmail/hotmail/mail.ru anymore, and why would they with the availability of hacked email accounts across a variety of diverse domain names being so high?
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korn wrote:
It's far cheaper to pay for human spam than to come up with a spam bot that actually works.

Bugger me, that's depressing. We've finally gotten to the point where automation is now more expensive than getting some grunt in an internet café to copypasta the same rubbish over and over.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems logical. I mean its cheaper to pay indians to make our clothes these days, one would also assume its easier to pay them to cook our spam for us too. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
....automation is now more expensive than getting some grunt in an internet café to copypasta the same rubbish over and over.

I'm sure the USMC make best use of their grunts like that Wink Very Happy


...BTW that was from me just playing word association football in my head.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to suggest auto declining members who input profile information (and obviously stating so) but if it's humans doing it it'll be no good I suppose.

I used to run a forum a few years back (~30K members, warez mainly, got shut down by Sony eventually Laughing) and it was a constant battle with spam bots, tried all sorts of phpbb plugins, what worked for us was what I said earlier along with answering questions (5x5, what colour is the sky, etc.). Ultimately all that stuff comes at the expense of annoying new users. Small forums can get away with making the first few posts only appear after admin approval, obviously no good on a forum of this size.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
Why/How has your BCF got the blues?

I know what colours and fonts I like, thanks all the same Mr Stylesheet. Hand
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irn-Bru wrote:
I was going to suggest auto declining members who input profile information (and obviously stating so) but if it's humans doing it it'll be no good I suppose.

It would be easy to stick something in that declined the registration if they had "kitchen" in their profile, but then they'd just notice that it didn't work, try again a few times 'till they found out what they can get away with. Ultimately it was easier to deal with when most forum spam was automated, but that's precisely the reason why it's now done by real people.

The good thing about marking posts as spam using the Thumbs Down buttons is not only does it temporarily hide them (inside theads anyway) but it quickly flags the account as a bad'un and makes it easier for mods to find & nuke the entire thing, threads & posts included.

The other thing that's happening at the moment is they'll start a new account, make a few random legit-looking comments in existing threads with no obvious spam overtones (no spam in sig, no links, etc) and a few weeks down the line come back and edit the spam back in... It ultimately never does them any good, as all user-posted links out of BCF have rel=nofollow on them and don't gain SEO benefit, but they still persist.

Pet peeve is a spammer resurrecting an old thread, and somebody replying to it / quoting the spam. A few days later the spam has been nuked, but your reply to the spammer is left. Just Thumbs Down rate it if you see it, don't reply, and move on!
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since there's no report feature on this forum, would a good idea not to be as follows:

1. User reports post a spam as per current method
2. Forum pops up "Would you like to report this post to an admin?"
3. Yes/No
4. Warning about false reports resulting in bad karma
5. Admin gets an email or PM

Summit like that.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will carry on dishing out the Thumbs Down to the late night / morning spammers. Last night / this morning I Thumbs Down loads of spambot posts and when I logged back in this morning I could only see one of the Thumbs Down posts still.

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PostPosted: 12:26 - 28 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irn-Bru wrote:
Since there's no report feature on this forum, would a good idea not to be as follows:

1. User reports post a spam as per current method
2. Forum pops up "Would you like to report this post to an admin?"
3. Yes/No
4. Warning about false reports resulting in bad karma
5. Admin gets an email or PM

Summit like that.



I'd rather not get loads of emails / PMs about spam, kthnx.

Just mark spam as spam, then we delete it when we see it.

It really isn't *that* big a deal.
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