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Should euthanasia be permitted?
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Should euthanasia be permitted? Reply with quote

Just seen something on the picture box that made me rage.

I have my reasons for raging that I will state later.

If you vote please state why you picked yes/no.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

With suitable safeguards against abuse, yes.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone should be able to make the decision to end their own life. Involuntary euthanasia needs to be judged case by case to stop nutter relatives getting the inheritance etc.
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part of me says yes.

But part of me says no, I have this cousin of mine, she is absolutely borked money wise as she just can't stop spending. Auntie (her mum) suffered a serious stroke and cousin is extremely impatient wanting her to die so she can inherit Auntie's estate.

What is left of Aunt's personality seems kind of trippy and happy, but we can never know. Cousin can't wait for her to die to 'inherit'
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
Part of me says yes.

But part of me says no, I have this cousin of mine, she is absolutely borked money wise as she just can't stop spending. Auntie (her mum) suffered a serious stroke and cousin is extremely impatient wanting her to die so she can inherit Auntie's estate.

What is left of Aunt's personality seems kind of trippy and happy, but we can never know. Cousin can't wait for her to die to 'inherit'


I'm sure the courts would see sense in a case like that.


Maybe you could get your cousin euthanased (sp?) as a special treat for your aunty.
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Putting a dog to sleep to end it's pain in old age is seen as the right thing to do yet it's against the law for a person to try do it to their self.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been in hospital again over the weekend (long story, another time) and some of the poor fuckers who I had to share the ward with were in a terrible state. I'm all for living wills. If I get to the point where I'm so decrepit I can't wipe my own arse, feed myself or am completely wibble, then by all means off me. That's no sort of existence to maintain.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am for it, but obviously with tight regulations on who has the say.

One thing I worry about in old age is losing my mind, forgetting everything and everyone around me. That and being in a coma, would much rather be put out my misery.
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Euthanasia is fine.

The thing is, those who are against it always argue that it’s not God’s way, that it isn’t natural. The first thing that pops into my head when I hear this is “Bitch, sticking the poor man on life support and force-feeding him through a tube isn’t natural. Pissing directly out of your kidneys into a bag isn’t natural. It wasn’t God’s way to keep someone in a hospital hooked up to all sorts of gadgets to keep them alive”.

Now I know that it’s not just those hooked up to life support that would desire to end their lived, but I think I’m getting the general point across. People seem to have lost sight of the fact that modern medicine is the one that isn’t natural, and they demonise the natural process of life/death.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a specials cases yes.If the Patient has no chance of living much longer would it not save the hospital alot of cash by letting the patient end it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in between depends on the situation
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In warped case it should be compulsory.


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PostPosted: 22:41 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, should be a human right to decide whether you want to live or not.

Why should anyone else decide whether you live or die?
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course. It's stopping it being abused that is the difficult part.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ja7 wrote:
I'm in between depends on the situation

Thats a "Yes" then.
Bloody fence sitters........

Anyway.
The missus had the twat factor on and some bint was talking about her child that has cerebral palsy, blind, unable to talk and something else.

I know we are no longer living in caves and medical science can do some amazing things but.....

What type of a life is that for anyone?
I was disgusted that society etc etc deem it acceptable to put a human being through that.
From what I hear, those who suffer from Cerebral palsy have traumatic and very painful episodes where they cant breathe.
Not only do I think that is it incredibly cruel to the child, and the parents, but it is ridiculously wasteful of time and resources when I cant see the child contributing to society what-so-ever.

I have seen 2 members of my family die due to setting sketchy blood transfusions (Haemophilia, Maggie the murderer Thatcher, late '70s early '80s, More info).
I know they would have ended the pain and suffering if they were able.
Both were stocky males. The coffins were tiny.


Those are the reasons why I think euthanasia should be permitted and the reasons why I was raging.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The situation you describe would not be euthenasia, it would be murder.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say yes, but like others have posted it needs safeguards.

For example, someone with locked in syndrome, but can still communicate via blinking ect. They can voice the will to die.
However someone with NO means to communicate ... it gets difficult Confused
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

D O G wrote:
The situation you describe would not be euthenasia, it would be murder.


There are several type of euthanasia.

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Voluntary euthanasia
Euthanasia conducted with the consent of the patient is termed voluntary euthanasia. Active voluntary euthanasia is legal in Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands. Passive voluntary euthanasia is legal throughout the U.S. per Cruzan v. Director, Missouri Department of Health. When the patient brings about his or her own death with the assistance of a physician, the term assisted suicide is often used instead. Assisted suicide is legal in Switzerland and the U.S. states of Oregon, Washington and Montana.

Non-voluntary euthanasia
Euthanasia conducted where the consent of the patient is unavailable is termed non-voluntary euthanasia. Examples include child euthanasia, which is illegal worldwide but decriminalised under certain specific circumstances in the Netherlands under the Groningen Protocol.

Involuntary euthanasia
Euthanasia conducted against the will of the patient is termed involuntary euthanasia.
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogue_Shadow wrote:
However someone with NO means to communicate ... it gets difficult Confused


Common sense, which the level of is in a current state of freefall within society, suggests that no-one would like to be in constant pain.
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irn-Bru wrote:
I am for it, but obviously with tight regulations on who has the say.

One thing I worry about in old age is losing my mind, forgetting everything and everyone around me. That and being in a coma, would much rather be put out my misery.


This is an interesting thought, but it's not the best reason for euthanasia, afterall, if you're in a coma, it's likely you have no idea what's going on, similarly with dementia, the victims often have no clue that there's anything wrong.

I've spent the last 6 years looking after my parents, who both suffered with dementia; Dad died 2 years ago and Mum is dying now and they both went past the point of having any sort of idea that their life was anything other than normal.

In reality, euthanasia already exists.

In Dad's case, I was given various options towards the end, that basically amounted to continuing medication, or not, with the result of stopping treatment being certain death; he was already out of the game, so I opted to stop the treatment and he was dead in 4 days.

It's also not uncommon for doctors to prescribe increasingly large doses of pain relief, until the patient dies as a result.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 02 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
The missus had the twat factor on and some bint was talking about her child that has cerebral palsy, blind, unable to talk and something else.


I'm yes for euthenasia, but on the fence for that.

On one hand it's a terrible life for the child, but on the other hand what right do we have to end a life purely because they're going to live a difficult and different life.

If I got diagnosed with an inoperable tumor or something which what extremely painful and I only had a set amount of time left to live, I would like the option to end it. Obviously I would attempt to live the rest of my life the best I could, but once it reached the stage where you're unable to do anything through pain or surgery or disability caused by it, that's when I would like to be able to say "end it". It seems almost inhumane to disallow the ability for someone to end their own life painlessly and make them suffer instead.
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Roberts wrote:
try putting half as much effort in 1day as I have the last nearly 2years?


Probably could.
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Roberts wrote:
Frost wrote:
In warped case it should be compulsory.


So you would happily kill someone who is working hard, paying taxes, and not scrounging off the state.
Purely because you are a tosser?
Yes, you are the reason that this country is fucked up. I have worked all my adult life (barring 6months last year and 43days this year) and paid my taxes and not taken the piss with hospital or going to the doctors for every little cough.
And FYI I should and have been told. I must be signed off on the sick for 6months to let my back heal properly, but choose to work instead of being a dole scrounger.

So ermm how about fuck off, and try putting half as much effort in 1day as I have the last nearly 2years?

You cock.


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PostPosted: 00:32 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frost wrote:
Mark Roberts wrote:
try putting half as much effort in 1day as I have the last nearly 2years?


Probably could.


I doubt that... it must take a hell of a lot of effort to come up with as much bullshit as Warped does.
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