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Bikermice
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: What Battery Reply with quote

I need to buy a new battery for my 125 and was wondering how many Ah would be sufficient? I see the cheapest is 4Ah but they go up to about 30Ah - on the one hand I don't want to pay extra for a higher rating if it won't make a difference to cold starting, but I don't mind paying the extra if it will start better and hold a charge better.

Also, is it worth getting a charger as well, bearing in mind I only do short trips (15mins twice daily). And how often should I top up the charge?

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Aff
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah is how long the battery will last on a single charge, not how much power it can output. You will need to match the batter to the CCA (Cold Cranking Amps) of your bike.

On a 125 a 4 or 6Ah will be fine.

Just make sure you get one that's the right size. Smile Thumbs Up
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J.M.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Battery recommendations - None. I know little about them.

Charging recommendations - You shouldn't really need to. My current commute on my 500 is 4 miles each way twice a day and it never needs charging. On my 125 it was 8 miles each way and also never needed charging.

If you do plan on charging the battery, get a trickle charger and attach it whenever you're not riding the bike. It will just make sure that the battery is constantly topped up.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy the correct one for your bike.

ie, the same shape, size, voltage, amp hour rating and terminal layout as the one it came out of the factory with.

Hopefully, this is the same as the one that's in it.

Once you've found it, the more you spend, the better the quality of the battery.
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't mean to thread hijack but it was mentioned about battery size and it made me think.

Are larger sized batteries any better? I ask as if my build goes ahead I'll be making a battery box for relocation. As I can make it any size would there be any advantage to putting in a larger battery? (if it makes a difference I do intend to do long journeys at times, as in over to France and may run the likes of satnav).
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The size of battery required depends on:

* The charging output of your alternator.

* The power requirement of the electrical systems.

* The size of the engine (and therefore the current the battery requires to turn the starter motor).

* The physical space available.

Put a large battery on a bike with a low charging output and you'll never get it fully charged. The alternator will be running constantly trying to do so and could eventually burn out, as well as putting a lot of load on your engine.

Put a small battery on a bike with a high power requirement and you'll keep deeply discharging the battery. It wont last very long.

So. The correct size depends on the bike and the manufacturer has usually worked this out for you.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motobatt maintenance free sealed Gel battery all the way

Never had any issues with cold starts on the button after switching to one, top notch battery IMO
Wasn't too expensive I didn't think, was like £30 I think

Just put this into google
*your bike model* wemoto battery

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PostPosted: 14:52 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers, very helpful
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers stinkwheel, very helpful.

I have seen those gel batteries. Wasn't sure what the difference was other that stability. Not much more expensive though.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No real reason not to get a motobatt battery nowadays. I've got one for my ZX9R and you can really see the high standard it has been built to. I have not had it long enough to know how reliable it is. It's 6 months old.

Although I do know I cranked the bike over no problem after it was sitting up for 2 weeks (with a horrible datatool alarm draining on it).

I have read that they replace it within a year if it dies. I've read someone getting a replacement for their hayabusa and they honoured it.

The problem in that case wasn't actually the battery though, it was the guys charging system. Laughing
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TomGT
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put a motobatt into the CBR earlier today, starter kicks over twice as fast Very Happy

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PostPosted: 20:10 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No more cold weather problems for me now I've switched to Motobatt.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've bought a motobatt for my hornet as reckon the current one if a bit buggered (not the main reason bike won't start though) only takes an hour to charge and 4 goes of starting the bike and it's dead.

Managed to get one for £42 inc postage for it
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 04 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
Motobatt maintenance free sealed Gel battery all the way


They are not Gel batteries and have never been sold by Motobatt as Gel batteries. They are sold as such by unscrupulous dealers. They are AGM batteries.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 05 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aff wrote:
Ah is how long the battery will last on a single charge, not how much power it can output. You will need to match the batter to the CCA (Cold Cranking Amps) of your bike.

On a 125 a 4 or 6Ah will be fine.

Just make sure you get one that's the right size. Smile Thumbs Up


You were right, it is a 6Ah. Went to halfords, waited for the usual 20 minutes to ask if they had any in stock, and was then told they were £49.99 for a Bosch. An unbranded one of Amazon costs £28
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 05 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Alpha-9 wrote:
Motobatt maintenance free sealed Gel battery all the way


They are not Gel batteries and have never been sold by Motobatt as Gel batteries. They are sold as such by unscrupulous dealers. They are AGM batteries.


Oh yeah my mistake, hadn't looked for a while

Quote:
MotoBatt is an AGM battery, a type of Sealed Lead Acid (SLA) battery.
This is a high torque battery. The cold cranking amps exceeds that of original equipment.
Get all the benefits of a gel battery at a sensible price.


It was also £42, not 30, still worth it though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 05 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikermice wrote:

You were right, it is a 6Ah. Went to halfords, waited for the usual 20 minutes to ask if they had any in stock, and was then told they were £49.99 for a Bosch. An unbranded one of Amazon costs £28


That's because a sealed Bosch battery is twice as good as an unbranded, non-sealed battery.
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