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PostPosted: 21:13 - 30 Nov 2012    Post subject: Spark plug waterproof box / container Reply with quote

Hiya
Anyone on here own one of these...or similar?

https://i.ebayimg.com/t/Bike-It-Waterproof-Motorcycle-Kart-Car-Spare-Spark-Plug-Holder-PLUGHOLD-/00/s/Mjk4WDgwMA==/$(KGrHqF,!hcE+5h1rW+1BQUKbyNeSQ~~60_12.JPG

Do they keep the spark plugs 100% dry?
They look like they are a quality item but not found anywhere local that has one I can touch / feel examine

I did carry a spare in the onboard toolbox on the DR...I have come to swap out plugs today and found I am carrying a rusty spare with possibly a compromised gap that I would not dare put anywhere near the insides of any of my engines or expect it to work properly first kick (straight into the bin it went)

Untill I can ensure I wont get the bike toolbox side down into water I guess I need something water and dirt proof to store the spare plug
...a simple plastic box wrapped in an oily rag failed after a surprisingly short period....and am pleased I found out whilst at home rather than out somewhere a long push away from help whilst already tired

yes a ziplock freezer baggy would possibly work for nowt...but I like the look and vibe of the screw together pod idea..looks like it will do what I want and maintain the spark gap if I were to get clumsy emptying the kit out and keep the spare plug dry if I take the bike for a swim

Would happily pay £4 or £5 for something that will ensure reaching for the spare is as good as putting a new ready gapped in tip top condition fresh from the shop plug in

As good as they look like they should be?
Good value for money?

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PostPosted: 21:19 - 30 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about your jacket pocket? Confused
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 30 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep my spare in the tool kit compartment, in it's original packaging in a zippy bag.
I wouldn't like the idea of using my jacket pocket...I remember reading on here someone saying "don't carry anything in your pockets that you wouldn't like to have inserted in your body" Shocked
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 30 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

£4.70 for this one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bike-It-Spark-Plug-Holder-/251101716643

If it keeps the plug dry then it's good value of course, £4.70 to get you home Thumbs Up I was watching a video the other day of what should be carried while off roading and the guy highly recommended a spark plug holder, personally I'd never even thought of it but it's obviously quite important.

(video is here)
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 30 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that something that nowhere_else (I cant remember your name, but I think that's right) could make on his 3d printer?
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 30 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have ordered a screwthread style one as per the image I posted
Will report back if it meets my requirements or dissapoints

Fingers crossed my plug will fit into it....

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PostPosted: 00:21 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A zip lock bag would do just as good a job.
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes a ziplock bag would work to keep moisture out - until it is pierced by one of the sharp metal objects also in the tightly packed toolbox

It won't however do anything to maintain a pre gapped plug - unlikely scenario you would think...but the rusty one I seemed to be carrying had also closed up despite being contained in a plastic container (box that an end mill came in - not ideal as it turns out)

I do not recall ever dropping the plug when removing items from the toolbox nor using a tyre lever to stuff it all back into the toolbox...but it happened at some point

....it also comes in a friendly shade of yellow

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PostPosted: 10:35 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not had a spark plug fail on my 4 strokes.

Anyone else had a plug fail on them?
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes -seemingly twice on the DR in not many more years

One was a barely visible hairline crack on the insulator nose causing hard starting and an annoying intermittent cut out every mile or so (cause unknown) if anything the plug looked rich so I dodn't /really/ suspect pre ignition damage

...and now this one
Repacked the exhaust a few months ago and I do suspect its been running rich(er) - getting black deposits on the end of the can and can't touch the choke till its actually started - otherwise it won't

I know I was lazy by not checking plugs / mixture as soon as I had re-packed the end can - or in the months since

But it ran exactly the same (just a LOT quieter) - started just as easy and wasn't consuming any noticable extra fuel- so assumed it wouldn't have changed that much

Now the cold is here and I need the choke its obvious something has changed enough for me to have killed this plug (just wetted it maybe?)

I also had the CJ360 that ate plugs for fun
I used to carry 4 spares in it - leaky valve stem seals I guess was the culprit - would get oiled up and fail
Puting them over a gas hob or flame was only convenient if you were close to one

GPZ doesn't and neither did the CG's and none of the cars here do
Just the usual annual replacement at service time

I got burned with the DR...but if I didn't have it I would have clean hands and could forget which way was tighten and which way was loosen

They are an "adventure bike" after all
Where's the adventure if you knew it would get you there every time??

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PostPosted: 21:15 - 01 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: Spark plug waterproof box / container Reply with quote

robocog wrote:
I need something water and dirt proof to store the spare plug

A spare plug holder can be made up from a short length of 22mm plastic or copper pipe, capped off at each end with push-fit demountable stop-ends. A length of approx 100mm will leave enough space for some foam or cotton wool at each end to protect the plug.
Such a plug holder will cost around 3 squids to make, can be tie-wrapped to any suitable location on the bike and will be 100% waterproof and dirtproof.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 06 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spark plug waterproof holder arrived and looks like its more than up to the task I require of it

As long as the plastic is OK with below zero temps I have no doubts that when I come to need another plug it will be minty fresh regardless of what happens to the toolbox on the bike

It's threaded and is hex shaped so even tired,cold numb fingers will be OK with opening it

Happy with the product for the price I paid

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PostPosted: 21:19 - 06 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bet that was fun to extract!
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 07 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Original packaging (has a card tube to prevent damage / gap closing) in a plastic bag -Job's a good'un.

Tape it up if needs be.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 07 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

tatfan wrote:
Is that something that nowhere_else (I cant remember your name, but I think that's right) could make on his 3d printer?

Laughing
Well, it's better than nowhere_asylum, I guess...

yes, I could make those on the printer. They would also be waterproof, too. I'm intending to put together a list of small consumables that I can produce more cheaply than the average 3rd party manufacturer; things like hose guides and such. I'll post a thread about it, when I've got something to show.
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 07 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

so taking from an earlier post

"a ziplock bag would do until its peiced by the other items in the TIGHTLY PACKED TOOL BOX"

so you want to use more valueble space with one of those?

just use 2 ziplock bags.

or a money bag and selotape it shut.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 07 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need ...

For about the same cost as a new spark plug from a shop I now have a spark plug container I would happily leave out in the rain and run my vehicles over and throw around with gay abandon and still know the plug is going to be as well gapped as when purchased and should in theory remain rust free and minty fresh for a long time
It fits into the toolbox so its a winner for me

Job as they say Jobbed

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