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PostPosted: 11:23 - 15 Dec 2012    Post subject: royal mail rudeness Reply with quote

Ok, firstly, I live in a highly welsh nationalist area of ceredigion. I'm a welsh italian, and I'm proud of my heritage on both sides. However, obviously, this isn't welsh enough for some as I was not "born in the village".

(I've had various problems with racism and even had my house literally drive-by'd, as well as a brick through my window, and various racist graffiti slogans on my walls. all simply relating to being italian, or simply not welsh "inuff".)

But you'd expect a professional organisation to require a certain level of conduct!?

I live with my grandmother who's 80 and occasionally suffers crippling arthritic pain.

our postman literally hates us for no reason. the first christmas he appeared here, she gave him a £100 tip like she used to the postman every year. last year she didn't, because he's so rude to her and us.

it's nothing too bad, just remarks, and general lack of manners. usually anything he says is muttered so i can't hear properly and then he's in his van and off.

today though, i was in the shower with the window open (it's a small bungalow)... and he gave the door a single thump expecting an instant answer.

obviously being naked and knowing my nan was there, i thought meh, i won't jump out. then i clear as day hear him shout "hurry up you crippled old cunt for fuck sake!!!"

then, rather than wait, he's opened the door and thrown the parcel in just as she was coming into the kitchen where the front door opens into. then storms off leaving the door open.

we have 7 dogs in the house and i'm sure he'd have enough to say if one of them attacked him as an intruder. I work in security too, so one is a trained guard and protection dog so it is likely he would be bitten. and quite rightly too. (i have signs, and a license etc in line with the law on keeping guard dogs)

also, i show my bullmastiffs and we usually win stuff. so theyre worth a few bob. if they got out and were ran over, would the royal mail be paying for them? my terriers the same, i don't show them, theyre worked, and i've been offered inordinate amounts of money for them too.

if i hadn't been in such a compromising position i've no doubt i'd have beaten him half to death today. why should we take such abusive behaviour from our postman!?

i've sent them a complaint to see what they say.

has anyone else had such problems with their fecking postman?!
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 15 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's nothing to do with the Royal Mail. Plainly the bloke is just a cunt. I think you'd be fully justified in kicking the fucker's head in and then letting your dogs bum him. Or you could bum him if you felt like it. What an obnoxious twat.

And for what it's worth, there's no excuse for racism or sectarianism. The world would be an infinitely better place if, as in the words of Bill & Ted, we were just "excellent to each other". Easy.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 15 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlosthejackal wrote:
It's nothing to do with the Royal Mail. Plainly the bloke is just a cunt. I think you'd be fully justified in kicking the fucker's head in and then letting your dogs bum him. Or you could bum him if you felt like it. What an obnoxious twat.

And for what it's worth, there's no excuse for racism or sectarianism. The world would be an infinitely better place if, as in the words of Bill & Ted, we were just "excellent to each other". Easy.


This.

We have a great arrangement with the postman at my parent's house. We have a bench right inside the front door and we let her open the door and put any items on the bench when they're too big to go through the letter box. Saves her time and means we don't have to worry about missing post and such. She'll even sign for parcels for us so that we don't have to go back to the depot (miles away) to collect them.

I don't have the same agreement with the postman in Birmingham. That's because the door on that house is one of the ones which locks when you shut it. Still though, he's a very polite man, I know because I've spoken to him a few times when signing for items.

You shouldn't have to put up with any of what you're putting up with!

I never pictured Wales as being such a rasist place, either. I've always had such positive experiences there.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 15 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's strange that your area is so racists. I used to live in the valleys and find it a very homely area. Places will always have the odd dick head but the situation you describe seems very odd!

As for the postman; he's a cunt.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 15 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: royal mail rudeness Reply with quote

ocatoro wrote:
Ok, firstly, I live in a highly welsh nationalist area of ceredigion. I'm a welsh italian, and I'm proud of my heritage on both sides. However, obviously, this isn't welsh enough for some as I was not "born in the village".

(I've had various problems with racism and even had my house literally drive-by'd, as well as a brick through my window, and various racist graffiti slogans on my walls. all simply relating to being italian, or simply not welsh "inuff".)

But you'd expect a professional organisation to require a certain level of conduct!?

I live with my grandmother who's 80 and occasionally suffers crippling arthritic pain.

our postman literally hates us for no reason. the first christmas he appeared here, she gave him a £100 tip like she used to the postman every year. last year she didn't, because he's so rude to her and us.

it's nothing too bad, just remarks, and general lack of manners. usually anything he says is muttered so i can't hear properly and then he's in his van and off.

today though, i was in the shower with the window open (it's a small bungalow)... and he gave the door a single thump expecting an instant answer.

obviously being naked and knowing my nan was there, i thought meh, i won't jump out. then i clear as day hear him shout "hurry up you crippled old cunt for fuck sake!!!"

then, rather than wait, he's opened the door and thrown the parcel in just as she was coming into the kitchen where the front door opens into. then storms off leaving the door open.

we have 7 dogs in the house and i'm sure he'd have enough to say if one of them attacked him as an intruder. I work in security too, so one is a trained guard and protection dog so it is likely he would be bitten. and quite rightly too. (i have signs, and a license etc in line with the law on keeping guard dogs)

also, i show my bullmastiffs and we usually win stuff. so theyre worth a few bob. if they got out and were ran over, would the royal mail be paying for them? my terriers the same, i don't show them, theyre worked, and i've been offered inordinate amounts of money for them too.

if i hadn't been in such a compromising position i've no doubt i'd have beaten him half to death today. why should we take such abusive behaviour from our postman!?

i've sent them a complaint to see what they say.

has anyone else had such problems with their fecking postman?!



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PostPosted: 14:08 - 15 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: royal mail rudeness Reply with quote

ocatoro wrote:
I'm a welsh italian,


I'm sorry, but I couldn't get past this bit. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 15 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: royal mail rudeness Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
ocatoro wrote:
I'm a welsh italian,


I'm sorry, but I couldn't get past this bit. Laughing


Food with sex means pasta sauce on a sheeps arse then.


Is that racist?
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 15 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't be the only one that finds the idea of Welsh nationalism to be utterly hilarious, can I? I mean, it's like having a 'Scabies Pride' march, or something Laughing

OP - the guy sounds like a massive tosser; record it next time it happens. Alternately, move to somewhere that's not occupied by pond life. Not the most helpful advice I know, but no-one should have to contend with that sort of behaviour in their own home.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 15 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: royal mail rudeness Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
ocatoro wrote:
I'm a welsh italian,


I'm sorry, but I couldn't get past this bit. Laughing


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My old instructor at Hatfield Wrestling Club (sadly now closed) was a Welsh Italian - Victor Segadelli.

Despite being only about 5 and a half feet tall, and well into his 70s, he was made of fucking granite and had incredible strength for a man of his size and age. He also had the most amazing pair of cauliflower ears, complete with tufty old-man ear-hair.

Great guy.

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PostPosted: 16:22 - 15 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of putting so much into a letter/email and complaining on here why didn't you put a gown on, go out and confront the fella for what you just heard?

You ain't gonna get anywhere with complaining, need to confront people in the here and now, not violence btw just a 'beg your pardon' and 'why you opening my door?!' would have been better here.

Royal Mail are a decent company for the record, it's people being soft that have kept that bellend in the job sullying their name for so long that's the issue here
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 15 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: royal mail rudeness Reply with quote

thegubner wrote:
Skudd wrote:


I'm sorry, but I couldn't get past this bit. Laughing


Food with sex means pasta sauce on a sheeps arse then.


Is that racist?


pair 'o bastards :p walked into the sheep shagging stuff i guess.


james1988, yeah i'm from the valleys originally, tonypandy/penygraig to be exact. but i live in ceredigion now, though i plan to move in june to gloucestershire. but it's incredible here. i'm not welsh at all, because i wasn't born "here".... this particular area/town/village. people from south wales are "english".

skudd, when you have things such as "ITALY CUNT" written on your house in 3 foot high red letters (illiterate cunts), what else do you call it? granted it's racism in it's broadest context. maybe i'd be better off saying nationalism.... but then i am a proud welshman myself.

nowhere.elysium, hilarious in concept, but in practice, theyre a vile bunch of house burning mentalists. there's been a big fuss recently because kids as young as 4 have been told by teachers they couldn't use the bathroom because they "didn't ask in welsh". and not just until they ask in welsh... just "nope, you had your chance to ask properly, now you'll wait til you go home". and others of 100% welsh kids being told to "go back to england" for the same thing, speaking english in school. and they wonder why people don't pick up the welsh language!?

mikester, i don't own a robe. and i was just standing amazed waiting to hear what was said. i have complained, and i will be confronting him on monday morning.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 15 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to attack him with spaghetii ? and shove a daffodil & leek up his arse Shocked .
Wrap yourself in the Italian Flag and sing Welsh songs really loudly as you beat him up.

Let him explain that one to the plod Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

From when similar happened to a family member of a friend - no, they would not be paying for any injury etc to the dogs.
They would be suing you for your dog biting them and pushing to get the dog put down.

In this case the door was very slightly ajar, but opened further by the post man to put something in. Dog was a rescue I believe who was still quite 'protective'. Dog was put down thanks to the post office.
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My point was that for the story of bad service it didn't need a history lesson nor did it need be stated the ethnic type. Doing so made it racist as in The Welsh bastard postie doesn't like me because I'm Italian.

It was a story of poor service and the OP brouaght race into it. If he has a hang up about it others will play on it.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

royal mail in general...


my postman stole my hosepipe, he's left a monkey nut shell inside the locked yard, and i've seen him eating them on his rounds...

looking forward to confronting the bugger tomorrow
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grow up speaking welsh in school, forever illiterate in English. I hear that posties lose their jobs if they are accused of tampering with the mail Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only time ive ever called someone a cunt was when they couldnt control their dog on public property and it bit me.

I got in trouble for my language, nothing formally though just a 'word'.

Dont know what happened to the dog, this was before the law was passed regarding dog bites, though probably fuck all.

Point is, RM do actually take their complaints policy pretty seriously even if your postman doesnt, make the complaint and see what happens.

We get really odd complaints sometimes but they have to be followed up.

Like for example, when you finish a bag of mail and move onto the next one (usually 6-8 bags a day), you fold an empty one inside another one and so on.

A passer by kept complaining that the postman (who i know well) was leaving bags of mail on his bike unattended, this happened several times.

Eventually the 'IB' (royal mails internal security) showed up and checked, obviously just finding empty bags.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wave my old postie lost his job for similar someone accused him of.not delivering mail properly /tampering with mail, all he was doing was removing all the junk mail leaflets and binning them which I thought was fairly decent of him. All it takes is one.complaint, put a cctv sticker in viee but out of view and then hid camera and sound recorder.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

simple solution:

stand in the doorway waiting for him with a sword.

when he walks up to give you the post just say

"i've been waiting for you. Next time you speak to me or my family the way you did yesterday, you'll learn just how effective this blade can be"

take post, walk inside.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those junk mail leaflets are classed as mail by RM.

Meaning binning them is binning mail (even though its retarded).

pizza hut leaflets and suchlike, we must deliver by law unless the customer has opted out.
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wales the the most rasict place i've ever been to. I've had people throw punches at me just for having an English accent. I'm form 6 miles over the border FFS!
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wave2k wrote:
Those junk mail leaflets are classed as mail by RM.

Meaning binning them is binning mail (even though its retarded).

pizza hut leaflets and suchlike, we must deliver by law unless the customer has opted out.

Yeah, stupid though as far as everyone but this one person was concerned he was doing us a favour.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
My point was that for the story of bad service it didn't need a history lesson nor did it need be stated the ethnic type. Doing so made it racist as in The Welsh bastard postie doesn't like me because I'm Italian.

It was a story of poor service and the OP brouaght race into it. If he has a hang up about it others will play on it.



actually, whilst i do identify as italian, i also identify as welsh. i was born here, and am proud to be from here. i am not remotely racist, i was just pointing out the background as to what i think the cause of the situation is.
i just thought it'd save the questions of "what have you done to him" "how many of his daughters have you boned" etc etc...

i used to feel some sympathy for welsh nationalism before i lived in this area, but now i know the people involved and know more about it, it does actually make me feel somewhat ashamed of some of my countrymen.


Pits.... that's totally correct. I know some decent folk from here who were raised with this welsh only attitude, and they have gone to university to be mocked for their lack of literacy or even some basic conversational english. it's sad really. I was taught welsh for the entirety of my school life and I can't speak it. mainly due to the obligatory nature in which it was presented to us i think. look at kids who learn french... they choose it because it's presented in the right way, they then usually keep it up for life. we have welsh rammed down our throats and then ditch it asap
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