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fatpies
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: No more tax discs? Reply with quote
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/transport/end-of-an-era-plan-to-scrap-paper-road-tax-discs.1355482873

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https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3428793.stm

Drivers wanted this in 2004, its only taken them nigh on 9 years to act on it.

Worryingly it means there is more tracking and more ANPR watching your every movement. Still I guess if it culls some usless civil servants it should be a good thing.
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
About time too, it takes the rozzers mere seconds to check if you are taxed using their equipment, why bother with the tax disc anyway?

Actually that reminds me, I haven't put my new one on the bike yet Neutral Still have the one on that expired in November, I have the new one just keep forgetting to put it on the bike. Ooops!

Shall go do that now, thanks for the reminder!
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: No more tax discs? Reply with quote
fatpies wrote:
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/transport/end-of-an-era-plan-to-scrap-paper-road-tax-discs.1355482873

Thing is :

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3428793.stm

Drivers wanted this in 2004, its only taken them nigh on 9 years to act on it.

Worryingly it means there is more tracking and more ANPR watching your every movement. Still I guess if it culls some usless civil servants it should be a good thing.

Your second link is completely different to your first.

The second talks about scrapping VED completely, adding it onto fuel instead. The first just talks about doing away with a bit of paper, but keeping the actual VED system.

Your 'it's only taken them nigh on 9 years to act on it' condescension would look a lot better if you had read the articles. Wink
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Such a move would increase the cost of fuel from around 77 pence to nearly £1 a litre.


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PostPosted: 11:31 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: No more tax discs? Reply with quote
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Mr Hammond said: "If you drive, run a business or pay taxes you will be a customer of ours and I hope you will have your say about how we can improve the services we offer you


That's a bit like calling a pig a customer of the abattoir.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: No more tax discs? Reply with quote
fatpies wrote:

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3428793.stm

Drivers wanted this in 2004, its only taken them nigh on 9 years to act on it.


Try wanted since the 1970s (at least). Think the last time it was seriously contemplated it was motorcyclists who managed to kill it off

Redoko wrote:

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Such a move would increase the cost of fuel from around 77 pence to nearly £1 a litre.


Crying or Very sad


If we take average mpg as 40, and average annual milage as 12000, that means average extra charge from 23p a litre on fuel as being ~£310. A hefty increase despite that getting rid of VED would save a large amount pointless staff at the DVLA (which costs in the region of half a billion pounds a year).

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PostPosted: 14:39 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
the only problem i can see is if you HAVE to do it online and no other option is that older people who cant use a computer will get screwed over.

i dont mind going down to my nans and doing it for her and all that but not everyone has someone that can/is willing to do it.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd have thought it would still be do-able in the same ways, just not a little round label to get nicked.

Also, tax disc holders are unsightly on many bikes.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't display mine, keep it under the seat, tax disc gets wet and you can't see it, or someone nicks it with your trye dust caps for good measure, likes its been mentioned they can quite easily tell if you haven't got tax these days.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 16 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would be more than happy with 23p onto the cost of petrol.
My car around town averages 24mpg.. works out almost halve of the £475 VED I have to pay now.
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 24 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
cimbian wrote:
I'd have thought it would still be do-able in the same ways, just not a little round label to get nicked.

Also, tax disc holders are unsightly on many bikes.
they are, even worse when you have to display a second MOT disc
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 30 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
moonzoomer wrote:
cimbian wrote:
I'd have thought it would still be do-able in the same ways, just not a little round label to get nicked.

Also, tax disc holders are unsightly on many bikes.
they are, even worse when you have to display a second MOT disc


prey tell why would you have to do this?
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 30 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
corrsfan wrote:
moonzoomer wrote:
they are, even worse when you have to display a second MOT disc


prey tell why would you have to do this?


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PostPosted: 18:35 - 15 Feb 2013    Post subject: WHY ARE BIKE NOT TAX FREE THEN Reply with quote
iF LOW EMISSION CARS PAY NO TAX WHY DO BIKES STILL HAVE TO PAY TAX ?
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 15 Feb 2013    Post subject: Re: WHY ARE BIKE NOT TAX FREE THEN Reply with quote
radicalrabit wrote:
iF LOW EMISSION CARS PAY NO TAX WHY DO BIKES STILL HAVE TO PAY TAX ?

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