Aftermarket exhausts

[Tungtvann]

Has anyone fitted an aftermarket exhaust on their bike and what are your views on them?

Are they worth the money and what are they like to live with? (do they have an annoying drone on the motorway at 70mph?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNIroN2PGhg
Skip to 0:45 to hear the goodness. I like this video as it's not just someone idling their bike with the new exhaust on.

I think that sounds awesome and would love my FZ6 to sound the same, the stock exhausts aren't exactly earth shattering but do I value that sound at 500 or so pounds? That's a considerable percentage of the bike's total worth and it wouldn't add a penny to the resale value, would it?

Do they alter performance at all or is it purely aural?

So, any views on exhausts, what you have, post pics or even videos if you like!

[iMark]

Performance gains are negligible from a full system, since you won't be using every last morsel of power in it on the streets.

Full system will give some extra HP but if you just want a new sound, all you need is a slip on really.

Most people get slip on exhausts purely for the sound, not for the performance.
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[Tungtvann]

Still, 500 quid for a different noise...

[Paulington]

I have an aftermarket system on my GSX-R, it's a full system, made of titanium by Akrapovic.

Here it is:

https://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227545_10150182553376371_1654563_n.jpg.

Not only does it sound the absolute bollocks compared to the standard cans, it also looks much better and is like a feather compared to the depleted uranium slug that is the standard system.

As for performance gains, when combined with the PCIII on the bike, it amounted to about ~10bhp I believe, maybe a tad more.

However, at the eye-wateringly high price of £1600, for the road I really don't think it's worth it, luckily the bike came with it, otherwise I'd never spend that much on an exhaust setup for the road, especially when slip-on endcans make a big enough difference for a fraction of the cost.

If you want a different exhaust note without spending too much, just get endcans as opposed to full systems, the noise wont be as different, but it will still make a noticeable difference. I did this on my old SV650S and it turnt the wheeze of the engine (almost no actual exhaust note) into a powerful growl from the exhaust with the slightest flick of the wrist, not having a ton of baffles/sound insulating material makes a huge difference, check YouTube and see if there are any slip-on endcans you really like the sound of.

Whilst it may not add anything to the resale value, if you do sell the bike you can just put the standard exhausts back on and sell the aftermarket ones on eBay or something, some money recouped!

Personally, I cannot STAND having standard cans on, they sound dreadful and are muted beyond belief, get yourself some cans and give your bike some aftermarket love, it's entirely worth it. .
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[moppy]

Thing I don't get about aftermarket cans and so on, do you not have to get it rejetted?

I think this isn't an issue with FI bikes, (right?) but for all us carbed bike owners, do you have to factor in the costs of dynoing & rejetting along with the exhaust? Although I guess if you're splashing out £1500 on a full system, a hundred or more so for dynoing and jetting isn't really an issue.

[BigDan1190]

[BigDan1190]

Heres some options for ya;

1) Beowulf
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Beowulf-Stainless-Steel-Oval-230mm-Silencers-for-YAMAHA-FZ6-04-06-/200831445278?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ec27ca91e


2) Scorpian
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scorpion-FACTORY-S-S-Round-Exhaust-2-Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-FZ6-04-06-/180850298306?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2a1b848dc2


3) No brand/custom made stubbies
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FZ6-FZS600-FAZER-04-05-06-07-08-09-FZ6N-FZ6F-STAINLESS-MOTO-GP-STUBBY-EXHAUSTS-/280735897128?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item415d29d628


4) Same as above, but carbon
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FZ6-FZS600-FAZER-04-09-CARBON-MOTO-GP-STUBBY-EXHAUSTS-/270802508532?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3f0d165af4

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[Dazbo666]

I have the Beowulf "stubby oval stainless" end can on the Bandit.
Better sound, less weight, and looks better than the standard can - plus it didn't cost the earth, so IMO was defo worthwhile
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[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

Mechanic on one of the CB5 forums maintains re-jeting is always necessary. Not sure that all agree w/ him - but he's a f/t pro.
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[Werny]

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My bike came with twin high levels when I got it. The standard is so quiet, and any after market exhaust unleashes the v-twin noise. Personally I think it's a safety aid as much as it is something for me to enjoy. You may not have seen me, but you DEFINITELY heard me coming.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8486/8244830304_db04b0978d_b.jpg

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[P.addy]

Well..

I've just changed the CBR600's exhaust, gone from the underseat whisper like exhaust to a stainless devil one... much louder. I like it!

The GSXR I had was a bit quiet to I put a bolt on can on there, then got bored so emptied the internals and stubbied it, it was like a megaphone, impossible to hear anything else when you were out with it.

Most of my bikes have standard exhausts but I like to have a bit of noise when I'm riding around.

Same with cars

[Tomzo47]

got a scorpion can on my bandit, sounds and looks so much better than standard, and only paid £150 for it.
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[motoman]

I'm on my 3rd Quill end can as i like the sound and build quality. had stainless one on a Guzzi ,twin underseat stainless on R1 and now have twin carbon underseat on VFR. would reccomend them to anyone. cant say Ive noticed any gains in power , maybe a bit smoother on the VFR but they definately sounded faster!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6WQQfbi19PE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voMUlTTJhF8&list=UU_Ka2AyvYJo9x6P_SX1mQ5w

https://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/marksmug/R1/Photo-0029-1.jpg

https://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/marksmug/Guzzi/P1010017.jpg

https://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/marksmug/Quill/P1010007-1.jpg

[evoboy]

Some bikes cope with a slip on end can just fine.

Some will need re jetting.

Some bikes gain power from changing the end can. ( Bandit 12 being the best i can think of )

Some dont.

Pretty much all of them will sound different though.
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[AlexW]

The thing is, You dont HAVE to spend £500, I've spent 10% of that on my Carbon Can Co. exhaust on my SV.

Just look at good condition used ones if you're worried about cost.

[stuartt]

i got the beowulf gp pipes on my busa , they had to be fitted quite far bk so my panniers didn't melt or get to hot .

they sound much better , there was no need to remap although i got a pcv fitted & got the bike remapped .

the power changed from 175hp to 180hp , the bike is a bit smoother now & if you open it up you can notice that wee bit extra power .

[Hetzer]

I've done something with the exhaust of every bike I've owned since (and including) my VFR400 in 1990 (full BEET system).

First (brand new) Blade in 1994: Full Ti Scorpian (Akrapovic), which gave me an extra 12bhp (setup & dynoed by Rhino Dyno in Croydon).

Second (brand new) Blade in 1995, I had a full Micron race system shipped to me in Japan. Did the carbs myself, no dyno or proper setup but it sounded suh-weet.

Third (second hand) Blade in 2005, a Micron can on the stock pipe.

Fourth (brand new) Blade RR7 in 2007, full Akra Ti system, did all the work myself and dynoed at 165bhp at the wheel, sounded the bollocks after the stock system (which is still in a box under my workbench).

Fifth and current bike, the ZRX1100, came with a full Ti Arata system but the can looked like a howitzer and sounded like a peashooter, so I swapped it for an S&M nutjob. Oh yeah baby!

Power's never been my primary concern, it's noise first and weight-saving second (the weight of stock equipment offends my sensibilities ).

Noise! The noise!!!
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[Nexus Icon]

They're almost compulsory nowadays due to bike designers apparently smoking crack just before doing the exhausts.

Seriously, they're pretty much all hideous at the moment.

I paid around £100 for a Venom end can for the SFV650 and it was worth every penny in looks alone, never mind the lovely burble.
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[Blau Zedong]

Depends on the pipe.

My current GSXR has a stainless Micron system fitted which is well made and obviosuly doesn't need painting every five minutes. Shame it performs worse than the standard system (big hole a 7.5k, no more top end).

My previous GSXR had a Yoshimura cyclone full system, which was mild steel but gave a big power gain without any loss of bottom end or midrange. Needed painting every year but actually worked.
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[stonesie]

The only bike I've had with a standard exhaust was the CG125.

SV
Bought with a stubbied scorpion, neighbors complained so I fitted a Carbon Can Co oval can, promptly 'lost' the baffle

Daytona
Bought with a TOR (Triumph off road) can, fancied a darker can for tart value so bought a blue flame stubby... Neighbors complained, police complained (got a S59 for it) and even with it's baffle in and earplugs it gave me a headache, so I bought a carbon Scorpion Red Power and removed the baffle... It's much quieter and deeper than the BlueFlame.

[stevo as b4]

For me i'd say aftermarket exhausts are about
1, more power
2, looks
3, better noise/more noise.

I would never fit a road legal slip on can for the looks or to make my bike different. But i can totally understand people wanting to get rid of some of the hideous modern under seat exhausts and fugly under the engine exhausts and collector box's and catalyst's etc.

I don't think that on moder sportsbikes people need to change the exhausts to get better performance. Say how much do you need another 10bhp on your new S1000RR etc? But it's a very personal thing and i can always understand people wanting to get a bit more noise out of modern whisper quiet engines.

I'd never deliberately go out and put a full system on a CBR125 etc, as then gains are not worth it. But when you have loads of capacity the gains though probably not that noticable, can be pretty big. You could see +20bhp maybe on something like a ZZR1400 with a full performance system and re-mapped ECU on the dyno etc.

Two strokes can see big changes in characteristics with aftermarket exhausts, but who's going out buying new strokers today and fitting aftermarket pipes, Other than scooterboys.

Oh and lastly i overall don't like loud chavvy exhaust systems on car's, especially when your somewhere where every 10year old or older car than comes past seems to have a silly fat big bore exhaust, things like a Sierra 1.8GLX or a Mondeo or a BMW 316i etc?

Worse still is small non performance hatchbacks etc, with the tinny raspy exhausts that sound fucking nasty. If you've got say a Civic Type R with induction mods and a re-mapped ECU, then a quality looking aftermarket exhaust is possibly quite desirable and useful performance wise, but not on a Clio 1.2 not now not ever!

The rule is different if you have a turbocharged petrol vehicle, as there's plenty of silencing there already and they never really sound tinny or raspy, so a big fat exhaust with no silencers should be the law in this case!

[illuminateTHE...]

Get an aftermarket exhaust even on a 125cc it sounds pretty nice...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-W3fsG7_gA

that's a video of me and my mates r125's aftermarket exhaust.. i want to make a new video as you can see my mate is being a tad too aggressive with the throttle.

Anywho the benefits of my scorp = better sound / improved road presence as i no longer have cars swaying into my lane also some nice drivers tend to give me more room once they hear me.
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