Is Xmas a bit sick in the head?

[Mondeo Man]

It's part of the British character to moan about Xmas, but unless you have young children, most of the 'hassle' that comes with Xmas is voluntary. Some random thoughts:

--> Women love to moan about slaving in the kitchen, fact is though, a Xmas meal is a doodle. It's basically a glorified roast dinner which actually takes a bout 15 minutes to prepare. I know women who started at about 8 am and I think to myself, what the heck you doing all morning? It's not that challenging.

--> Men do love to turn up at the last moment to cut the meat. Yes, you are a hunter! Congrats on your massive contribution to the meal. Any woman with a brain is humouring you when she lets you cut the meat.

--> The amount of food people either eat or waste at Xmas is sickening. There is no need for it. People load their trolleys on Monday, stuff their faces on Tuesday, and then on Wednesday they're shuffling for space in the supermarket to buy even more crap. Either they ate a hellava lot of crap or most of it's gone to waste.

I've always believed that wasting food is criminal. We never waste. If you've been alive more than 2 months you should know by now your own appetite.

--> Presents. Why do we persist in buying each other crap? Even if we agree to not do it, someone has to violate the rule. In an office full of women and me, we all agreed not to get presents this year. No one stuck to it except me - now I look cheap. All the stuff is going on ebay. I don't need junk. I have enough I buy myself without others buying it for me.

--> Drink. It is madness to drink as much as people do. You've got some time off work, why waste it being out of it? I'm all for a little fun with booze, but people unthinkingly go crazy just because "it's the thing to do" at Xmas and everyone else is. At Asda over the weekend not a single transaction invloving booze came to less than £100. As a country, we must spend billions on poisoning ourselves.


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But of course, we all know, there is little enjoyment to be had in this excess. Every year we do it, and most of us get no great pleasure from it. Yet nxt year, we're moan about it, but we'll still do the same.

Xmas is for young uns, for little jimmy to ride his sleigh in the snow, and little jenny to play with her toy dolls. As adults, it's fairly pointless. We seem to have this attitude of if it's Xmas we must eat just a little too much, drink a little much, etc - if one chocolate bar is pleasant 10 chocolates must be tenfold as pleasant - of course it doesn't work that way and, for most adults, especially those without kiddies, Xmas is just meaningless, dull, excess that we do because everyone else does.

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[The Artist]

This is my first year living alone and have come to visit family over Xmas.

I won't be next year. Yes it is nice to see people and I will still visit but stuck for days on end with peoples bitchiness is just unbearable.

It is why I am on BCF right now rather than talking to people. Shame really.

In response to your issues, I did lunch today and we are having our main meal tonight and I am doing the meat part of that. Including the prep.

Meh, I will take whatever is left over and work my way through it over the next few days.

Presents, I know people who don't do it anymore. Why waste money on stuff people don't want. Only way it is acceptable is if people agree on what they want to buy each other or cash or nothing at all. No one at work bought anything apart from mince pies so I wasn't gonna start a tradition.

Xmas is a great excuse to use drugs in the day without society looking down on you. That is why.

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[5v3d3b0]

Well aren't you a grinch

[Mondeo Man]

You've hit the nail on the head.

Xmas is meant to be about relaxing, for those with young kids - I get it, you probably won't get much rest.

For the rest of us, the madness is optional. We don't need to be slaving in the kitchen, stuck in sweatfests on Xmas eve buying last minute junk presents, rushing out on boxing day for "the sales" (it's not a bargain if you didn't need it until you saw it!) ; bored with bitching family members. All of this is a choice that we make.

It os perfectly possible to get all the presents you need at the end of November from amazon (as i did - it all took about 30 mins), get some crappy cards from poundland, russle together a nice meal in under an hour, and spend the day with those we want to - making excuses to avoid those we don't.

[P.addy]

I'm currently doing what I do on every day off, forage for food in the kitchen, play with gadgets and sit on BCF.

It isn't sickening, I would like it more if presents were deemed unnecessary.

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[Mondeo Man]

ok then Mr Ebenezer Scrooge.

I made a turkey on sunday. with all the side dishes and gravy and stuffing, it si not 15 min work.

But then I have food for days, so it isnt wasteful.[/quote]

You made a turkey?

I'll skip the innuendo. Fact is, you didn't "make" a turkey. A whole industry made a turkey. You took it out of a wrapping, interfered with it's arse, and put it in a oven.

Big deal. 1 minute work.

The amount of turkeys slaughtered at a time of "peace" is another element of a rather sick, double standard festivity. We talk of peace kindness and generosity, yet, the whole centrepiece at the heart of xmas betrays our lies, speaking of the three human sins of cruelty, selfishness, indulgence.

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[Kradmelder]

[quote="Mondeo Man"] You made a turkey?

I'll skip the innuendo. Fact is, you didn't "make" a turkey. A whole industry made a turkey. You took it out of a wrapping, interfered with it's arse, and put it in a oven.

Big deal. 1 minute work.

The amount of turkeys slaughtered at a time of "peace" is another element of a rather sick, double standard festivity. We talk of peace kindness and generosity, yet, the whole centrepiece at the heart of xmas betrays our lies, speaking of the three human sins of cruelty, selfishness, indulgence. [/quote.]

You have obviously never made one. In1 minute you wont even mix the dough for the stuffing, never mind chop the garlic, onions, carrots etc.
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[Visitor Q]

I had a thoroughly pleasant day. Worst stress was getting everyone to agree on a time to eat, stick to it, and get the food ready for then. Other than that, sat on a beach, watch entourage and drank lots of Sherry.

Crucial difference... No family Would have been better if the misses was here but hey hum, take what you can.

Family ruin Christmas for everyone, fact
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[scorps]

mine wasnt too bad, I got upset with my dad when he phoned to moan about the argument he had wth my brother in law that led to me finding out about my mum being dead for months, rather than sit and listen to dad go on I stopped him and told him that if there was anyone who had the right to feel pissed off, it was me and no one else.
My two grandchildren came down and opened their presents and played with half of them supervised by my other half.
Me and my daughter had a nice gossip in the kitchen preparing lunch, we had lamb as I dont like turkey and this afternoon we chilled out with the kids.
Once the kids are in bed, me and my daughter are going to her new place to measure up for blinds etc and tomorrow we are hitting the sales looking for new carpets.

Im not a fan of Christmas so refuse to go out and buy buy buy, the supermarkets are open again after tomorrow so theres no need to go mental and end up pigging out and chucking a load away thats wasted.
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[Polarbear]

It's up to you what you make Christmas. I miss it most years being away, so when I do find myself in UK for it I love it.

So what if you over indulge, so what if you buy each other stupid stuff. Sod this tree hugging feed the world don't waste food crap, I couldn't give a toss!

But I'm not home so it's another bottle of alcohol free Becks and another episode of Falling Skies.

Merry fuckin Christmas
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I hate Xmas. I've spent most the day driving around alone.

Looking forward to going back to work.
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[pinkyfloyd]

We tell kids that santa brings presents for them. My question is. If santa brings presents how come he know what kids are the poor ones and what ones are the rich ones? I mean he must do because poor kids get shit presents.
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[Simeski]

Yep, like as has already been said Christmas is what you make it. For me it's about the kids as I could care less. My wife and I bought for each other but didn't even bother wrapping the gifts and gave them to each other last night, plus we got things we knew the other wanted so no one was disappointed.

Today was just a chance to get some family round for a meal (we didn't have turkey either as the other half doesn't like it).

I have had the sum total of two beers since the weekend so hardly excessive but may have a couple this evening now I don't have to drive.

All in all a pretty good day I think
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I did think earlier we were overdue for one of your threads.
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Our Christmas lunch. It was lovely.

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