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MrAndyD
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: L PLATES... Is it legal to cut the white edges off? Reply with quote

Hi,

Bought a new bike, and the shop didnt put the l plate on the front. They said I could do that, and that i could cut it down to make it fit. Ive cut it down, but then thought, is this really legal, or will no one care much?

Thanks for your help in advance

Andy
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Ste
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. Legally it has to be 7 inch square, and if per L plate which is not you can get 3 points and a £60 fine. If you're going to display them at all display them correctly as otherwise it is just like having a sign on your back informing the police that you're not legal.
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The Tot
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having said that - you'll be taking a risk. All the ped-bois in college ride with cut down, mudguard mounted L-plates and a few have been stopped. I guess they were lucky that the cops didn't hassle them on that account. Many people still chose to do them with disregard for the law, but then again, it is mainly the kids that do them - i keep my L-plates legal size (gettin rid of them soon) because i don't want to attract unnecessary attention from mr Rozzer. It's one more reason for the police to nick you, and if you're a young aspiring rider, i'd use up your points WISELY (if there is such a thing) - not on some stupid L-plates
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
If you're going to display them at all display them correctly as otherwise it is just like having a sign on your back informing the police that you're not legal.

Personally I think a lot of police will be quite happy to give someone a telling off if an L plate is too small (was like that when I got it guv), when they may well do someone for not having any at all.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, but having half an L plate gives them a clear reason to stop you and hassle you, but no L plate or a complete L plates doesn't leave any reason for them to stop you.
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Villers
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

In some cases I think you need a bit of common sense. when I was learning on my RS125 a full size plate on the rear would catch the tyre and get trashed quite often. For the front, aside from sticking a full size one over my screen (not happening no way, no how) the only option was for it to be cut down and stuck on the plate. I never had any trouble from the police, not even a mention on the bikesafe outing or the easter egg run. Just use your common sense and leave 'some' white around the edges and you should be fine. Avoid those ones that hang off your front fork at all costs! Wink
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Ste
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is strange that some people do have problems with their L plates magically falling off, or "it hits xyz so I can't put it back on" and yet others manage with no such problems. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
Avoid those ones that hang off your front fork at all costs! Wink


I had one of those, I've moved it before the wind snaps it off, and the screw for tightening the bracket was scratching my fork. Both front and back gained a large number of cracks, purely from repeated loading stress.

A vague twist with a pair of pliers and away came the bracket, add a few inches of plastic coated garden wire and subtract a pointless shiny thing under the headlamp, and Robert's your mother's brother.

Hence now it has a hole in it perhaps an inch square from where the bracket was pulled off, and is vaguely held on with garden wire. It got all the care and attention I think it deserved, which is not a lot.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="mchaggis"]
Villers wrote:
Avoid those ones that hang off your front fork at all costs! Wink


I had one of those, I've moved it before the wind snaps it off, and the screw for tightening the bracket was scratching my fork. Both front and back gained a large number of cracks, purely from repeated loading stress. [/end quote[

doh! too late! might try to put it back on, as i want to do my test soon, but will the test centre accept a sticker L on my bikini fairing?
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only have a rear L plate and that has a bit missing from where the rear wheel caught it. The way I see it the copper would have to be watching you quite closely to notice that you only have one L plate on.

I ride sensibly, wear the right gear and am polite when stopped so should be able to look humble and get away with it. If not I only get 3 points as I can't afford 6 for L plates. It just means you have something obvious for them to have a go at you about, rather then them picking on you for something else!

I have always found the police are more interested in lecturing you on something rather than issuing penalities (just do not wind them up.)

My most recent run in with the police was only yesterday for no other reason than driving an old car (MK1 GTi). Sod was quite aggresive in the way he pulled me over as he cut a corner and as I slowed down to not clip him he cut the corner even tighter to block me. He basically called my car a shed and told me to disappear. I had just pulled away so had done nothing wrong, guess he just wanted to make his presence felt.
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Villers
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that taking your bike to do your test on is an exception mate! If you have to stick it onto your 'lil fairing make sure that its prominent and is full size. Take the advice of your local instructor before you show up at the test centre with a dodgy plate. Taking your test you have enough to worry about, without having to think about something as stupid as an hell plate.
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mrchips
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 08 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took about an inch off each side of mine. Even when I've been pulled over I've never got anything said to me about it.
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