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 Fem1 Scooby Slapper

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 Posted: 16:23 - 01 Jan 2013 Post subject: Mod 1....2nd go |
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got my mod 1 next week and am nervous about the hazard avoidance i failed on this last time.
Any advice would be appreciated  |
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Head-up, look where you want to be, not at the cones. Do not touch the brakes until you are back on the straight... It is not an emergency stop! ____________________ 22PlusY
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Thanks Cimbian thats where i went wrong looking at the cones . Is it a fail if you don't reach required speed or would this be a minor? |
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I failed end of November and this is the only slot that i could get....I suppose after 19th January there will be loads of slots for mod 1 and 2 to choose from.
Not that i am going to fail.....I will not fail....I will not fail  |
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As said, twist the crap out of the throttle in 2nd as you some out of the bend, hold it there until you pass the speed trap.
Snap the throttle closed and look ahead between the cones keeping your head-up. Once on the line look where you want to be and before you know it you will be through and going back to the original line and just lay off the brakes. You do not have to stop quickly, just under control.
Picture it as a cager nudging out of a side-road, you avoid, get straight, stop and give them a mouthful!  ____________________ 22PlusY
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Tip for the hazard avoidance is look at the cone on the LEFT, not the one on the right.
Worked wonders for me!
Sort of brings your positioning over that bit more so your safe from hitting it, look where you want to go and all that mallarchy, give it a try  ____________________ 07' Honda Hornet now full powaah! My guide on performing an oil change! |
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If you can get out to the test center before your test day, just watch people do theirs. If you can figure out when a training school have booked it for their DAS candidates, even better as you will see loads of Hazard Avoidance tests done. You'll be surprised how little a jink it actually is when you watch other people do it. There's nothing violent about this manoevre at all, just flow through it. If you're on a 500cc, stay in second at 20mph around the curve, then gun it when you're pointing at the trap, throttle off at the speed trap and swoop through the gap and back into line. I never looked at the cones at all on my training or (both) Mod 1's I took. Look at the space you want the bike to go through with two quick counter-steers and it'll be over and passed in no time.
BTW, slalom/figure 8 foot down got me on the first Mod 1.
Deep relaxing breaths before each manoevre got my Mod 1 passed second attempt. I was obsessing about the slalom/fig8 to the point that I thought I'd never be able to do it under exam conditions. I decided to relax my shoulders and grip on the bars, deep breath before each segment and nailed it with zero minors.
You will too. Good Luck!  ____________________ INSTALLING SUMMER... ████████░░░░░░░░44% DONE. Installation failed.
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Might sound daft but get to 'know' what 50kph sounds like on the bike in 2nd gear, then you shouldn't have to give more than a quick glance at the speedo as you exit the bend. As others have said, look at where you want to go rather than at the cones. Keep the throttle on until you've cleared the speed trap, then roll off the throttle and do the swerve part. Once clear and straight get on the brakes (easy on the rear as you won't want to lock up!). Break it down into steps, up to speed for the trap, then off the throttle, swerve bit, straighten and brake nice and cleanly.
Best of luck gent.  ____________________ CBT: Pass 25/06/2011 Theory Test: Pass12/06/2012 Mod 1: Fail 08/07/2012
Mod 1 Retest: Pass 15/0702012 Mod 2: Pass 03/08/2012
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Thanks for the advice everyone
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Have you been doing lessons? On my lessons I was told about conscious counter steering - just a little push to the left on the handlebars will make you go right, and a little push right - you guessed it, you go left. We did some on-road practice of this where we would pick a spot in the road (a letter on some painted STOP signs, or a manhole cover) and swerve around it using counter steering. It takes all of the 'effort' out of making the bike go where you want it to go, and helped me massively when I asked about practicing the swerve test and I was told 'you've been doing it all along!' I was like "oh yeah, bloody hell, that's easy!'
So, when I id my Mod 1, I just hard (but not full) throttled it as soon as I came out of the bend, through the speed trap, let off the throttle, little push to the left, then little push on the right, nice clean stop and voila! Done! Coudn't believe how easy it actually was - don't let yourself get worked up about it, and ask about practicing counter steering on your lessons (if you have any left). ____________________ What would you do in life, if you knew you could not fail?
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Practice by avoiding those speed bump squares, that's what I did. I also drew up the course on some graph paper to a proper scale as the DSA site diagram is not to scale and makes everyhing look tighter.
I think the Estop is the trickier one. I had a slight lock up without even realising I had pressed the rear brake, but the examiner was decent and let me off with it because it was so slight.
Good luck whatever happens at least its only ten minutes of stress. |
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Shush. Don't even think about "countersteering" on your mod 1. It's a distraction. The manoeuvres are trivial, you don't need to do anything except ride.
Go round the bend as fast as you can in 2nd gear, open the throttle wide as early as you can, hold it open until you're at the speed trap.
Don't look down, don't change to 3rd, don't back off. There, lots of things to not do. See how easy it is? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Yup, just thrash it  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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