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WillSwain95
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Mod 1 passed, Mod 2 coming up. But if i fail?? Reply with quote

Sorry if you're pissed off with hearing about this...

I have my CBT, Theory and Mod 1 passed.

I have my Mod 2 on tuesday. I think i'll pass, but if i dont and i cant get another test before 19th of Jan, Will i be on current laws because i have Mod 1 already and be able to just have 2 year restriction, or new laws even though i've already passed mod 1??

I've heard both and this is best forum i know and i believe there'll be instructors on here who should know...

So please someone help me out?? I hope i pass. Smile
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Rogue_Shadow
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PostPosted: 01:35 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't pass your A2 (33bhp) restriction licence MOD 2 before Jan 19th, you will default into the new test system for all future MOD 2 attempts ... leaving you on a 125cc Sad


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PostPosted: 01:48 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here go down to Age Restrictions

https://www.gov.uk/motorcycle-practical-test/new-rules-for-mopeds-and-motorcycles-from-19-january-2013
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PostPosted: 02:20 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Will.

I assume if you are >17 but <19 then your Mod 1 will still count but all future Module 2 attempts will have to be taken on a 125cc as in the new licencing regime you can only ride a 125cc between the ages of 17 and 19.

However, from what I garner from that table as posted above, if you are 19-23 and you took your Module 1 on a 125cc then you should be able to re-take your Module 1 on a new "A2" category motorcycle and then continue on to your Module 2 on a new "A2" category motorcycle which should then give you an A2 licence. I may be completely wrong but that is how I read and interpreted it.

What makes me wonder is the whole "staged access" thing, but I am sure if you are 19 then you don't have to take the A1 test first, you can just go straight to the A2 test, I think. If you are 18 now I would say you're probably just better off waiting until you are 19 so you can take the A2 test.

If that is the case and you are 19 or older, it's probably better you take the Module 1 again with an "A2" category motorcycle.

If I am wrong, someone please correct me! I don't want to give wrong information just this is how I interpret it.

Cheers!
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WillSwain95
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is so confusing!

I'm 18 in feb so id only really be a year away. Obviously im determind to pass. But im still getting people on FB saying that you can still do mod 2 after 19th and still be on A2 licence... But i think i'll just go on A1...

Thanks
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just make sure you pass the mod2. Easier said than done but just remember these simple tips; don't rush anything & just go with the flow. Remember to listen to what the examiner says e.g 'pull over safely on the left' don't park on yellow or red liness. Good luck. If ou already passed the mod1 then you're capable of passing mod2.

If you do fail & you probably won't get another test before the 19th because you have to wait 10 days after failing & the days up to the 19th will be packed out. After the 19th you're mod2 will be invalid
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j.silvs
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately what people are telling you is wrong.

After 19th jan it will all come down to age as to what you can do your Mod 2 on.

Good luck
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Clive L
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

petechett wrote:

If you do fail & you probably won't get another test before the 19th because you have to wait 10 days after failing & the days up to the 19th will be packed out. After the 19th you're mod2 will be invalid


It's actually 10 clear working days, which in effect means the earliest anyone can retake a module 2 test is the 13th day after the first effort.
As they don't test on Sundays, this means Monday 21st is the earliest Will can retake.

And as Josh and Paul said, if you took the mod 1 on a 125(as you have to at 18), you will have to use a 125 for your mod2 after the 18th, regardless of age.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Re: Mod 1 passed, Mod 2 coming up. But if i fail?? Reply with quote

WillSwain95 wrote:
I think i'll pass, but if i dont


Mod 2 is the easy one, do not go into this worrying about what if I fail.

You're going to pass it.

Try to relax, don't do anything stupid and you'll do ok.


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PostPosted: 14:20 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As from Jan 19th; licences will be awarded under the new rules.... end of.

The A>33bhp restricted licence WILL NO LONGER BE ISSUED

A1's will be issued, Unrestricted A's will be issued. New A2 will superceded A>33.

New minimum age limits will come into force.

This does NOT mean it 'only' effects under 24's; it effects any-one who wanted to obtain a full licence on a 125 without doing DAS, and 21-23 year olds working towards DAS.

Rules require that the both Mod 1 and Mod 2 are completed under the same 'scheme' on the same scheme eligible motorcycle; you cant mix and match and take your Mod 1 on a 125 and your Mod 2 on a DAS bike, or vica versa.

No-One yet will have a Mod 1 passed under A2 rules so ANY-ONE wanting to test Mod 2 under A2 will have to sit Mod 1 on A2 eligible machine, whether they have a 125 or DAS obtained Mod 1 cert or not.

DAS schemes aren;'t changing, so if you have passed Mod 1 under DAS then provided you are over 24 come Jan 19th you may complete DAS Mod 2.

If you are 21 and trying to sneak in at the finish-line..... eek.... Mod 1 cert is valid for as long as your theory Cert, which at max is two years... if you are 22, there is an outside chance it might still be valid by the time you are old enough again to finish DAS.... but unlikely!

If you are ANY AGE and done Mod 1 on a 125, then, although you obtained the Mod 1 under 'Standard-Bike' rules which until now would gain you an A>33 restricted licence, that will no longer exist. Technically you would have to re-do Mod 1 on A2 bike to get the 'new' restricted licence. However, AS the machine requirements for the old 'Standard-Bike' have been transposed 'down' to supersede those that were in force for 'Light-Bike' the A1 licence scheme, its LIKELY (note likely NO guaranteed) that a 125 obtained Mod 1 may be counted towards an A1-125 only Mod 2 test.

If you passed a Mod 1 on a sub 120cc or non 'Standard-bike' eligible 125, under 'Light-Bike' scheme; then technically that should still be permitted to count towards post Jan 19th Mod 2 Test for an A1 licence, as the 'scheme' has remained teh same, so both Mods would have been taken under the same scheme as rules demand, and the lower machine spec you did your Mod 1 on, was permitted under rules in force when you did it.

If you are 17 and have 'done' Mod 1 on a 125, you will probably be able to take Mod 2 on a 125, and gain an A1-125 licence for it.... you couldn't count your Mod 1 towards a 'new' A2, you dont have an A2 Mod-1 cert.... no-one does yet. AND you couldn't do A2 tests until you are 19 under new Age limits.

If you are 19, and have done Mod 1 on a 125, again, you will probably be able to count your 125 passed Mod 1 against doing an A1 Mod 2, but no-one has an A2 Mod 1 pass cert yet, so if over 19, and you want to do A2... you'd have to do the Mod 1 on an A2 bike to get the ticket.

So, DVLA will NOT issue a 'new' A > 33 bhp for two years 'Restricted Licence' after January 18th.

If you haven't got one by that date..... tough. There will be no concessions to any-one who thought to get one before hand, but didn't. Its a Hard-Cut-Off point, no excuses, no exceptions.

Both Mod 1 and Mod 2 Tests have to be completed under the same test 'Scheme'.....

So if you WERE eligible for a test scheme under pre Jan 19th rules, and have got the Mod 1 under them, but are NOT eligible for that test schem after, default is, you will have to repeat Mod 1 for whatever test-scheme you might be eleigible for under new rules.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The list below shows what sub-category you’ll need to use for module 2 if you’ve already passed module 1 before 19 January 2013.

Column a =Your age from 19 January 2013
Column b =Sub-category used for module 1 before 19 January 2013
Column c =Sub-category used for module 2 after 19 January 2013

A --- B --- C

17 or over --- A2---A1 (anyone who did the mod 1 on a 125, mod 2 has to be on 125, gets the new A1 licence)
23 or under--- A---A2 (anyone 21- 23 who did the mod 1 as DAS, takes mod 2 on new A2, Gets new A2 restricted )
24 or over --- A---A (mod1 on DAS, take mod2 on 600, full A licence)

Your licence is only valid for the sub-category of motorcycle you pass your module 2 test on.

This is taken from the DSA link given above by TheSmiler, https://www.gov.uk/motorcycle-practical-test/new-rules-for-mopeds-and-motorcycles-from-19-january-2013
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

WillSwain95 wrote:
But im still getting people on FB saying that you can still do mod 2 after 19th and still be on A2 licence...

There's no "still" about it, since there's currently no such thing as an A2 license (as opposed to an A2 test bike, the definition of which is changing on January 19th).

The short version is that you need to pass your test on Tuesday, or you'll be stuck on a 125 until you're 19. Thing is, even if you do pass, you'll be stuck on a 25kW restriction for 2 years, so another year on a 125 followed by a jump to a much more useful 35kW isn't the end of the world.
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