Porsche overtakes learners, banned for six months

[MarkJ]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-19799312

What do people reckon? IMO the overtake looked ok, the worst part was him slamming on the anchors for the camera van. I can't see many people on here sticking to the speed limit on an overtake

If anyone on here knows the road, is it a 50 limit?

[mysterious_rider]

instant ban a bit harsh????
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[mr-jermy]

i dont think its harsh at all he shouldnt have been driving at them speeds to start with and then to overtake a bunch of learners is even worse, i found it bad enough when doing my driving lessons when there was people like that on the road let alone on a bike they must have shit themselves seeing him do that got what he deserved IMO.

[Jefr0]

113mph is a bit much for an overtake in a 50
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[mrdelmonti]

I imagine the thing that tipped the scales for an instant was him locking up in front of the learners.

[DMCpro]

113 mph? If he was going that fast he shouldn't have admitted it cos double speed limit is auto ban. If he just over took them at 60 then sped up there's not really a problem and the fact that he over took learner motorcyclists is not really relevant, anything for the press to dramatise the situation!
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[MarkJ]

The camera readout shows 113mph in the bottom right corner so no way to get out of that. I thought ABS has been mandatory on cars for years?

[Raffles]

IMO, the Porshe driver has been treated harshly. When he overtook, he left ample space between his car and the learners and the road ahead was straight and clear.
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[DrDonnyBrago]

If it said "Car driver speeding at 113 mph in a 50 banned for six months", would anybody give a shit?

[P.]

[chris-red]

[recman]

Didn't see a lot wrong there apart from excessive speed and the lock up fail.
He didn't cut them up and I didn't see any wobblers, there looked to be plenty of room.
There were no junctions involved.
Not defending him, the guy is just another cock in a Porsche but if there were no cop cam, I doubt very much if this incident would have come to light.
I cant see the bike instructors being to bothered about it as they see shit like this all the time.

[Joncrete Cungle]

It was perhaps daft and a bit dangerous and 113mph was a bit OTT. If someone overtook me like that on what looked like a straight bit of road with nothing coming the other way I would just shrug my shoulders, assume he was in a hurry and carry on riding or driving. No kittens died 'til he saw the Talivan and anchored on, poor obs?

If he had hit someone / something and caused an accident or some damage then fair enough throw the book at him. As no one was harmed in the making of that film and the kittens only died at the point the driver noticed the Talivan I am inclined to Meh! and think his ban and large fine is harsh.

I can go out and appropriate someone elses property with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it. Or get tanked up on Sat night and assault someone and receive a far smaller slap on the wrist for actually doing another human being some quantifiable harm.

Hands up all those who would not have passed a group of learners when you got to a straight bit of road with nothing coming in the opposite direction?

[Irn-Bru]

Over take is ok but 113mph on a 50 road is taking the piss a bit so can't say I disagree with the out come.
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[pinkyfloyd]

A few things struck me about that video.

Firstly the penis in the Porsche. Ban wasnt enough for him. He was driving completely irresponsibly without taking into account other road users.

Secondly. Thats an awful big group of learners out on the road with instuctors. There shouldnt be that many. Its 2 riders per instructor out on the road and there seemed to be groups of many.

Thirdly if the road was a 50 zone then the learners should be at or near that speed (unless they are on the cbt peds restricted to 30) so there was no reason for the penis to overtake. Especially the way he did.
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[Shinigami]

aye they've made more out of it for the news spin, basically someone got caught speeding well over the limit. can be summed up in one sentence
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[G]

Generally it's considered safe to overtake as quickly as possible.
There's a difference, to my mind, between sitting at 113mph and hitting it for a couple of seconds to speed up

I'm presuming that's a turbo there, which is a pretty rapidly accelerating car.
Surprised it locked up, but do rather suspect that was seeing the camera van van. Note how quickly it slowed down, too.

[Raffles]

As G says, the porshe only touched 113MPH (assuming that the scamera is accurate) for a brief moment. He'd probably been sat behind that large group for some time and seized his oportunity to pass them as soon as it was safe to do so.
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[chris-red]

[daemonoid]

Did the bloke actually manage 113 though? Those cameras are notoriously affected by jitter at the operator end. While he was tracking laterally the speed was all over the place. Once in the lane and the laser pointed straight it looked much more like the indicated 79mph. I didn't notice any drop in speed until after that 79 reading, although it's always difficult to gauge the speed of an oncoming vehicle.

Perhaps an insta-ban for 79 in 50 is harsh and the overtake looked legitimate to me.
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[MarkJ]

Just to clarify, I don't know what the speed limit is for that road. Everyone is quoting my 50mph suggestion but that was just a guess - I've been on the roads in that area before and I seem to remember quite a lot of 50's so just assumed it was 50.

Could be NSL. Certainly looks like it should be, but since when has common sense had anything to do with setting speed limits

EDIT: A bit more detail here: https://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/month-ban-Porsche-driver-overtook-learner-bikers/story-17792322-detail/story.html

[G]

And just because they were doing the speed limit on that section of the road doesn't mean they will be making good progress on another section, where it would likely be more dangerous to overtake.

Seems that bar the speed camera the driver chose an excellent place to overtake.