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3illy
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Alarm fitted, now smoke? Reply with quote
Hi, for the past two hours I have been trying to fit my cyclone v2 alarm onto my bike. Well when I thought i have finished the task, smoke started coming out of the seat area for around about 2-3 seconds.

Now parts of the plastic on the positive wire seem to have melted away and there is an oily substance on some of the wires that were unaffected.
After seeing this i double checked my wiring and I haven't come across any faults, red to positive/ black the negative and the indicator wiring is correct.

Now I've started to tape up any exposed wire with black tape. I also tested the electrics on the bike/alarm and everything seems to be working.

Now I'm started to get a tad bit paranoid, I'm just wondering if my bike is now a fire hazard.
My bike is parked next to 3 other motorcycle's (Harley, Gilera runner and a ktm super duke). My bike is also next to some polish kids window.

What should I do now? What could have caused the smoke?
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Ariel Badger
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Move it closer to the HD.



Edit

You have a short circuit, with luck you have not killed the alarm.
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thepuma
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Learn Polish.
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Peirre oBollox
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
You`ve let the smoke Genie out .............. your doomed.
Though its more than likely you`ve shorted some wiring somewhere. hopefully the alarm still works & no other problems will occur.
But I would disconnect it for a while, because if the smoke Genie had escaped, his mate the bike fire Genies may follow while your not looking
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3illy
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
What may have caused it and how can i prevent it from happening again?
The alarm still works by the way.
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3illy
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
JiveBunny wrote:
3illy wrote:
What may have caused it and how can i prevent it from happening again?
The alarm still works by the way.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMSO5mHqFLM

Skip to 1.30. Thumbs Up


so should i smash it with a spanner?
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3illy
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Its not cool guys, I don't want my bike to cause a fire which could spread to my neighbors bikes. There is material all over the place which could easily be set alight, for example bike cover/ bush next to the ground anchors.
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J.M.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
3illy wrote:
What may have caused it and how can i prevent it from happening again?
The alarm still works by the way.


Smoking... melted wires... you've created a short circuit somewhere and the bike has tried to put too much through a wire, more than it was designed to handle. This caused overheating which melted the plastic surrounding the wires. The melting plastic would have produced the smoke and the oily substance on other wires would have either been from one of the melted wires or a wire that was about to melt.

Most probable is that you have, somewhere, left a wire exposed which came in to contact with the frame.

If the bike isn't doing anything bad now then you are probably safe. However it would be in my mind to go look at the wires and put some electrical tape/heat shrink around wires which appear to have been damaged. Also make sure that no exposed wiring is showing.

It's also worth noting that the fuse holder on the Cyclone V2 is pathetic. Keep it away from the frame because it's possible for the fuse to touch the frame and blow if you're not careful. It wont cause smoke, but will cause you to bang your head for a few minutes trying to figure out why your alarm has broken.
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stonesie
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
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In seriousness J.M. has nailed it i think, check/repair the wires like he said and that should be it sorted, double check the connections too.
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P.addy
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just wire the red wire to + and black wire to -

You do not need the rest, especially when it gets wet and stops working.

My way, you'll be able to pull it off and continue on your journey.
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Isnt this the alarm that talks to you? God i hate those things.
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
evoboy wrote:
Isnt this the alarm that talks to you?

"Look what you've done! I'm melting, melting. Ohhhhh, what a world, what a world."
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3illy
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
evoboy wrote:
Isnt this the alarm that talks to you? God i hate those things.


Nope, I have a different type of alarm from the same company. I don't see the point in having a talking alarm, I prefer a loud noise i could easily hear when I'm not close to my bike.
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3illy
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 15 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
J.M. wrote:
3illy wrote:
What may have caused it and how can i prevent it from happening again?
The alarm still works by the way.


Smoking... melted wires... you've created a short circuit somewhere and the bike has tried to put too much through a wire, more than it was designed to handle. This caused overheating which melted the plastic surrounding the wires. The melting plastic would have produced the smoke and the oily substance on other wires would have either been from one of the melted wires or a wire that was about to melt.

Most probable is that you have, somewhere, left a wire exposed which came in to contact with the frame.

If the bike isn't doing anything bad now then you are probably safe. However it would be in my mind to go look at the wires and put some electrical tape/heat shrink around wires which appear to have been damaged. Also make sure that no exposed wiring is showing.

It's also worth noting that the fuse holder on the Cyclone V2 is pathetic. Keep it away from the frame because it's possible for the fuse to touch the frame and blow if you're not careful. It wont cause smoke, but will cause you to bang your head for a few minutes trying to figure out why your alarm has broken.


Thumbs Up thanks for the help guys.
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