NSR 250 MC21 or RGV 250 vj22

[Torque Wrench]

Hi All

Have existing projects, but wanting to build something special.

Looking at making a purchase, at present I prefer the NSR 250 MC21.

Anyone own either of the two motorcycles in question?.

Any advice would be much appreciated

Also I'm looking for a NSR 250 MC21 SP, anyone selling (can only hope)

Thanks.

[Frost]

The honda seem to have gone up in value more rapidly and are the more desirable bikes. But then you'll find spares harder to get and get less for your money. The RGVs can be quite engine part hungry, but i think have more scope for modding.

[Robby]

I would go with the RGV. Aprilia went on to use the engine in their RS250, so more engines and parts around.

The NSR may have gone up in price down to rarity, but I understand that the RGV is the better bike.

[MarJay]

Neither. They are both overpriced for what they are.

If you can get a working NSR for less than £3000 you'll be lucky. If you can get a working RGV for less than £2500 you'll be lucky. Either way they'll need a rebuild...

If you want a project why not buy an RD350 Powervalve and a Cagiva Mito and build a Mito 350. Its been done many times before and you end up with a 65bhp 350cc two stroke twin sportsbike, with a modern frame and running gear. 916 forks go straight on and they can be made to handle excellently.

You can pick up a half decent powervalve for £1500, and blown up Mito's go for £600 max for one in nice condition.
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[andys675]

why no RS250?

and I'd avoid any NSR, never imported to uk
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[Torque Wrench]

@andys350
I prefer the look of the NSR and RGV but yeah I have thought about the RS250. I think I'm going through the nostalgia stage in my life and rather than buy another modern bike I'm looking at something more unique.

[m3-paul]

Don't discount Yamaha. The RD350 has already been mentioned but the TZR250 3XV is a delight. I only own the 2MA but that is a pleasure to ride and own and I will never sell it and the 3XV is such an accomplished bike that it has to be worth a look. The 3MA is a cracker but very temperamental but when set up well is another stunner.

The problem is that there were some wonderful 2T 250 machines produced and as such, dependant on budget you have the choice of some cracking bikes.

Good luck in your search.
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[Polarbear]

FFS, got that 'I want a 2 stroke' nostalgia after reading this. Well I won't be getting one I don't think. The prices for piles of rust are effin stupid.

Saying that, do you think this is a bit girly for an old overweight Polarbear

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-RD-350-L-C-STUNNING-BIKE-NO-RESERVE-not-a-fizzy-/271136304899?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3f20fbaf03
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[Blau Zedong]

The RGV is about as exotic as a Ford Focus compared to the NSR. The NSR is beautifully put together, has by far the best engine management system of any stroker and was also the first road bike that handled well enough to elbow down (See PB Circa 1992 for Stephen Marlow doing it six laps in a row).

The only advantage the RGV has is that the UK bikes are full power, but these days the knowledge to deristrict the NSR is out there and they make more power than the RGV once un-neutered.
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[MarJay]

[Suntan Sid]

How can you resist? Clicky

Never ridden an RGV, but in comparison my NSR 250R feels like a toy when compared to the RD. You are part of the bike when you're riding it, whereas your just sitting on the RD.

I'd love the bike in the link, if I had the cash, but as everyone else has pointed out, spares are like rocking horse doo doo, in comparison to the RD, RS or RGV.
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[UnknownStuntm...]

Why not a VJ23? They're rarer and probably more expensive but the tech is top notch.

[stevo as b4]

If i were really wanting to hunt down a rare 250cc race rep, then it would have to be a TZR250 3XV for me. I think they are better looking than the other bikes and you never see them around.

Th MC28 Honda might be as pretty, but you would pay stupendous money for one, and all NSR 250's are physically tiny bikes too.#

I'd not buy a VJ22 RGV unless i had a hole in my head! They make the KR1/S (with their occasional piston ring peg disapearing act) look like a paragon of reliability!

Oh and not quite what Marjay was suggesting with a Cagiva Mito special, but if i found a pretty nice Mito with a grenaded motor going cheap, id be putting a GasGas TXT320 trials engine into one! I think it would be just as much fun as the YPVS350 conversion!

[Blau Zedong]

[MarJay]

[Suntan Sid]

Never, had any issues, at all, with My KR1S!
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[Torque Wrench]

It looks like the NSR is the favourite over the RGV at present.

I think the NSR 250 MC 21 SP had a limited run of 4900? units, making it a very rare motorcycle

91 = 2500
92 = 1500
93 = 900


Tyga do upgrades for the RGV and NSR, including a 300 kit for the NSR.

Thanks for all the input guys