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Kris
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: The art of gritting by hand. Reply with quote

And how some people have no idea whatsoever. Rolling Eyes

Our residential road is a quiet dead end and is not on the gritting routes. The roads at the end are on Secondary gritting routes, and the main road further down is on the Main gritting route. All roads bar the main road are hilly, (we live on the side of a small valley) with our road on about a 20% slope.

In winter, if it snows we get some. Hence why we have grit boxes on some corners filled with road salt.

Now every time it is due to snow I generally grit the road and side roads leading to the main road myself before the first flakes appear. Being the only biker in the street I accept that it's mostly in my interest to grit the road - so I am happy with that. I take a small bucket and a gardening trowel and scatter the grit broadly across the whole width of the road over several passes - mindful of parked cars etc.

I've been on leave this week, and next week I'm working from home and / or taking a coach to work. Nobody else has thought to grit the roads themselves so now we have an inch of snow. Fair enough.

Except I've watched a complete waste of oxygen based a bit further down the road try to grit the road. His method? Partially clear two shovel-wide strips and dump nearly the whole grit-box worth in several clumsily placed lumps up to his drive.

Great. So no grit for anyone else then, plus compacted ice underneath.

Is it really too hard for people to comprehend forward planning in life?

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PostPosted: 10:12 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its easier just to assume that people are stupid unless proven otherwise. Then you'll never be disappointed, only pleasantly surprised.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

About the same here, in the 25 years I've lived here I've never seen anyone else make any effort to clear or grit the nasty little slope up to our road.

One day last year, I was clearing it all (yet again, on my own) and decided to have a rest for a few minutes. A car stopped halfway up the slope, the driver (a new neighbour) wound down the window, and said "you'd get more done if you didn't spend as much time leaning on that shovel"

I was a little miffed at that, so told him to fuck off before I pushed the shovel up his fucking arse.

He got all indignant and huffed and puffed, threatening to "report me to the council". I was wearing a hi-vis jacket, so he must have assumed I was a council worker. I wished him good luck with his endeavours, and bade him fuck off again, which he did.

This year, I'm not going anywhere, I don't need to get the van or the bike out, so fuck em. The road is covered with packed ice now, and a lot of cars are parked at the bottom of the hill.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just common sense, not a lost art, I'm 22 and had never in my life seen anybody clear anything but their own driveways. Last year I cleared and gritted the end bit of my road plus the footpath after seeing car after car slide straight into the main road as the end of the road was a steep hill straight onto the main road.

It's not like I'd ever been shown how to do it but it's hardly fucken rocket science!
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the kind of selfish era we live in.

Expect nothing less than laziness and pompous self worth from others.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The people in our street shovel all the snow from their driveways onto ours. My neighbours do hate me though. Even if i grit the entire road.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Re: The art of gritting by hand. Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
The art of gritting by hand. And how some people have no idea whatsoever.


My landlady wasted her newly bought grit, by throwing it over newly laid snow... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
It's just common sense, not a lost art


Now, I do believe that they are mutually exclusive terms in today's world. Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Re: The art of gritting by hand. Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:

My landlady wasted her £2.50 newly bought grit, by throwing it over newly laid snow... Rolling Eyes


I threw a dose of grit down at work Thursday ready for snowfall and asked the 2nd in command of my company if he wanted me too do the whole area outside. 4pm Friday, he asks me to throw some grit on the snow across the area I didn't do, now 3-4 inches deep with snow, too last until Monday. Hes 51.... Surely he knows when too use grit and when not too use grit Shocked
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
Last year I cleared and gritted the end bit of my road plus the footpath after seeing car after car slide straight into the main road as the end of the road was a steep hill straight onto the main road.


What the hell is wrong with you? The correct action in this case was to not grit and to set up a video camera for the hilarity that would undoubtedly ensue Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodgydog wrote:
A car stopped halfway up the slope, the driver (a new neighbour) wound down the window, and said "you'd get more done if you didn't spend as much time leaning on that shovel"

I was a little miffed at that, so told him to fuck off before I pushed the shovel up his fucking arse.

He got all indignant and huffed and puffed, threatening to "report me to the council".


I actually laughed out loud! Thumbs Up Karma
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assumed that because you hadn't gritted the roads like you normally do you had actually moved out of the area. Given that none of the other residents had gritted the road I felt the salt was fair game for my drive. Apologies for any inconvenience caused.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Counterpoint, we're proper Spirit of the Blitz round here. The problem is getting the Council to refill the bins, especially when the few mental cases do the "pile it up on my drive" trick.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My parents house has a steep slope. I always had the opinion that if you cant get up safely without grit you should not be on the road in this weather. I always drive up when I had cars.

Ill admit I did not ride the CG125 up the slope, I walked it up in gear. Easy Smile
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a clip on TV News looked like council workers (in N.I?) throwing it on inches deep.

There is no need, a light sprinkle will work unless it is -10, and putting more on won't make it work when very cold either.

Usually half the problem is lack of proper shovel so if there's a pile by a steep bit round here someone usually throws most of it on by the bin leaving big areas between without.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

keggyhander wrote:
dodgydog wrote:
A car stopped halfway up the slope, the driver (a new neighbour) wound down the window, and said "you'd get more done if you didn't spend as much time leaning on that shovel"

I was a little miffed at that, so told him to fuck off before I pushed the shovel up his fucking arse.

He got all indignant and huffed and puffed, threatening to "report me to the council".


I actually laughed out loud! Thumbs Up Karma


Me too, and Thumbs Up to an entirely appropriate response to the arrogant fucker.
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just cleared the snow outside my house and 3 houses either side of my terrace, and like OP there is partly some self interest, as I park in the street or front garden, and it makes it easier for me to get my bikes in and outa s long after the main roads are passable there is still ice hanging about my street. Frozen pavement trying to park up in the garden can be a nightmare

Got moaned at for doing it, by one of the NIMBY's who was convinced i'd get her sued if someone fell over. Rolling Eyes

I grit by hand, throwing it out like chicken feed, though I buy it myself so I'm very sparing with it.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

even though ive been feeling rough all week i chucked some trousers and a cheap jumper on and went out and helped dig and push my neigbours van out up a slope yesterday

i looked out later and he was digging up the snow off the slope i offered to help and he relied

you can make the tea im freezing Very Happy

so a cuppa later and we cleared the slope

i always buy the grit as i get it for pence from work

about 2 quid for a 25 kilo bag

sprinkled that all over the place with my daughters spade from her bucket and spade set as mine was in the bunker out the back with about a foot of snow on it
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tho other year when the snow and ice stayed around for weeks and there were abandoned cars everywhere as no-one could drive any further in those conditions, did our local authority leave is any grit at the end of the roads? No.

Instead they told us we could get as much as we liked from the local amenity site. Which is miles away and you'd need a car to get there, nevermind to carry it back in Doh!

So far this year I think they have the same plan. Although the snow is not as bad yet, not a sign of any grit for people to use should the need arise.

Assholes!
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
My parents house has a steep slope. I always had the opinion that if you cant get up safely without grit you should not be on the road in this weather. I always drive up when I had cars.


I went to ASDA on Saturday. Made it there and back okay on the bike. However there was absolutely no way I could get the bike up on to the drive.

Even only using the clutch's biting point (no throttle at all) the rear wheel was just spinning up and sliding about the place. Just about managed to get it on the footpath. I then had to get some help to push it up the drive to the garage after I had unpacked the shopping.

Sloped drives are a fecking nightmare in this weather.
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

This must be a BCF thing in that we all grit.

I live on a cul de sac which connects to a residential road, non of which gets gritted.

Every year it is always me that goes out with a shovel and a bucket and I throw grit, like if you were throwing seed. I've done it today and I have used a sledge to hold my bucket.

I only grit from the road at the bottom to my cul de sac, after my cul de sac the road is pure ice. I've lived here 14 years only once has anyone helped. Sure I have a lot of old neighbours, I have had people stop and say thanks.

Most people seem to think the grit box is for their own private use on their drives and thow down bucket loads on them. I'm seriously thinking of reporting them.

Funny my drive I have not put any grit on it, because it's not mine, the council bins are for the road. But then I have winter tyres.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gritted my patio (where the bike lives) and down the back alley to the alley that cuts through between the roads of terraced streets, think I used 3 shovel loads to do about 30m of it which allowed me to get the bike out and back in again.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

kawakid wrote:
This must be a BCF thing in that we all grit.


A biker thing . A touch more aware of what losing control means when exposed too the elements as opposed too a car.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way to correctly grit like a man is to fling it using a spade. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
The only way to correctly grit like a man is to fling it using a spade. Thumbs Up


nah throw it like a chimp chucking poo
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