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3illy
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PostPosted: 05:07 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Punishment for incorrect coloured lights? Reply with quote

What is the punishment in the UK for having incorrect coloured lights at the front of a motorcycle.
In my scenario two red side lights which will be located next to my head lights.
Is it just the fine or points as well?
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PostPosted: 06:33 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Re: Punishment for incorrect coloured lights? Reply with quote

3illy wrote:
What is the punishment in the UK for having incorrect coloured lights at the front of a motorcycle.
In my scenario two red side lights which will be located next to my head lights.
Is it just the fine or points as well?


Why not google on the internet for your traffic regulations colour of lights? I suspect blue and red would be illegal as they are usually reserved for emergency vehicles. It is like that here. Aslo, lights must be of one colour and pointing forwards. White yellow and amber legal here. I run with amber. Having 2 additional white lights I suspect they would fine me
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PostPosted: 06:46 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's illegal to have RED lights on the front of a vehicle or white on the rear, with the law as it stands now I'm not sure on the fine or if they could even take it away. I don't think plod or VOSA would take too kindly tp it although you might get lucky, orange or yellow as running lamps are OK and I know a truck will pass the mot with them and the lighting law's are the same on the level.

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PostPosted: 09:19 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know the answer to this offhand, which means that any given Plod is unlikely to either. That means that in practice it could result in your bike being seized, probably unlawfully.

So I'm not going to look it up, because it's a daft question.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Re: Punishment for incorrect coloured lights? Reply with quote

3illy wrote:
What is the punishment in the UK for having incorrect coloured lights at the front of a motorcycle.


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PostPosted: 10:35 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:08 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you want red lights at the front of your bike? Someone not paying much attention (and that's most of them) could assume that you were going away from them, and pull out.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

red light facing forward are illegal. besides there being no need as said there is a chance of "mistakes" being made.

depending on the pig that pulls you may get something as simple as a vehicle defect form for the MOT station to fill. of as said before you may get impounded
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just have normal lights like everyone else?
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

banditjohn wrote:
It's illegal to have RED lights on the front of a vehicle or white on the rear,


Oh really.....

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PostPosted: 13:04 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
banditjohn wrote:
It's illegal to have RED lights on the front of a vehicle or white on the rear,


Oh really.....

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people tend not to be heading down the A36 backwards at 60mph with their reverse light on though do they?
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure there are reports of some crack junkie doing it somewhere Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bin lorries all do it round here.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Bin lorries all do it round here.


Not just the inability to turn off beacons then as they double as 'I've got beacons on, how did you not know i was going to stop' lights
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
I'm sure there are reports of some crack junkie doing it somewhere Very Happy


Or in America, a cop...

Still, in response to OP some police might turn a blind eye, but you can bet there'll be one who'll pull you over for driving a vehicle in defective condition since the lights aren't allowed to be red. Since it's a motorbike they might give you the option of removing them at the roadside, but if they wanted to they could find some rule that allows them to confiscate your bike or something so why take the risk? Amber running lights look better anyway.
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Re: Punishment for incorrect coloured lights? Reply with quote

3illy wrote:
What is the punishment in the UK for having incorrect coloured lights at the front of a motorcycle.
In my scenario two red side lights which will be located next to my head lights.
Is it just the fine or points as well?


Why don't you try it and then you can ask the copper when he pulls you over? You could try trolling him rather than this forum.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall a lorry driver getting booked for it a few years ago for having a tiny Christmas tree in his window, and one of the lights on it was red.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

banditjohn wrote:
It's illegal to have RED lights on the front of a vehicle or white on the rear,



It is unless it's under exceptions but the actual Lighting Regs state it's illegal to show other than a white light to the front or other than a red to the rear, then you've got your various exceptions, indicators, beacons etc etc.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

White at the front
Red at the back
Blue only if you're emergency services
Green if you're a doctor on call
Amber as a warning light.

The police can and will get pissy with you for having headlights that are too yellow. Showing a flashing blue light could potentially get you in trouble for impersonating the police!

Red at the front is more likely to confuse drivers than get you pulled over. Drivers pull out in front of bikes far too often, so why would you want to confused them to to what direction you're heading in and make matters worse?
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was on L plates on my CBR125 about 7 months ago I fitted a light blue bulb as the pilot light on my CBR, both headlights were white (legal) was riding along the seafront in Sussex when I saw a marked traffic unit coming towards me, I watched in my mirrors as they did a quick U-turn (as if I've just robbed a bank) and flashed me over, he was a grumpy tosser and handed me a £30 ticket (no points)

Tryed to fight it but was then handed a £45 ticket for my troubles.

My advise, stay legal and stick to white front and red rear.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frost wrote:
The police can and will get pissy with you for having headlights that are too yellow. Showing a flashing blue light could potentially get you in trouble for impersonating the police!


Apparently not. You are not your vehicle and a vehicle cannot impersonate a police officer.

It would (i believe) just come under the incorrect use of lighting equipment bribe section.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 20 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

we have this:

Colour of lights
181. (1) Subject to the provisions of regulation 170(1), 171(1), 172, 175 or 176, no person shall operate on a public road a motor vehicle which is fitted with or carries on it a lamp which--
a. except in the case of a brake anti-lock warning light to the front of a trailer, emits a light which is not white, amber or yellow in colour towards the front;
b. emits a light which is not yellow or amber in colour towards either side of the motor vehicle; or
c. except in the case of a direction indicator or reversing lamp complying with the provisions of these regulations, emits a light which is not red in colour towards the rear.

170. (1) No person shall operate on a public road a motor vehicle, other than a tractor, unless it is fitted with at least one number-plate lamp at the rear, illuminating the number plate or identification card by means of a white light which shall make every letter and figure of such plate or card plainly distinguishable from a distance of at least 20 metres by a person of normal eyesight: Provided that a number plate lamp need not be kept lighted on a motor vehicle parked on a public road.
171. (1) A motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles may, but a breakdown vehicle shall, be fitted with side-marker lamps along each side which, when in operation, shall emit a diffused yellow light: Provided that the side marker lamp furthest forward on the motor vehicle, combination of motor vehicles or breakdown vehicle, when in operation, may emit a diffused white or amber light: Provided further that the rearmost side-marker lamp on a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles or breakdown vehicle, when in operation, may emit a diffused red or amber light.

172. A lamp emitting a diffused light may be provided on any motor vehicle for the purpose of illuminating the interior, including the instrument panel thereof, or any entrance thereto.
175. (1) A motor vehicle may be fitted with a reversing lamp emitting a white light, which illuminates the road to the rear of, or under the vehicle.
(2) Such a lamp shall be under the direct control of the driver and shall be either so fitted as to operate only when the motor vehicle is placed in reverse gear or be connected with a device by which the driver shall be made aware that the lamp is in operation.
(3) Not more than two such lamps shall be fitted to a vehicle and no light shall be emitted therefrom except when the vehicle is reversing or about to reverse.
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PostPosted: 01:15 - 21 Jan 2013    Post subject: Re: Punishment for incorrect coloured lights? Reply with quote

thepuma wrote:
3illy wrote:
What is the punishment in the UK for having incorrect coloured lights at the front of a motorcycle.
In my scenario two red side lights which will be located next to my head lights.
Is it just the fine or points as well?


Why don't you try it and then you can ask the copper when he pulls you over? You could try trolling him rather than this forum.


I'm actually not trolling its a serious matter.
At the corner of each headlight there is a little bulb. I was thinking about changing the little bulb to red whilst keeping the actually headlights legal.
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PostPosted: 01:42 - 21 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My farther lost a friend a few years back. He had a red/purple filter on the headlight of his sports bike.
A woman pulled out of a junction on him, and he died on impact when he hit the side of her car.

The poor dear had to attend court etc, for obvious reasons. But of course she was found non guilty because she thought the bike was traveling away from her when she checked left and right before pulling out, as she saw red lights, and not white/yellow.



Bikers moan all the time about car drivers not seeing them. When in fact, if we, as bikers, actually looked out for ourselves a little more, and stopped expecting others to do so for us, we'd have a helluva lot less 'near-misses' while using the roads.





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PostPosted: 01:56 - 21 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red bulbs in place of clear ones in park/clearance make you a dick head. Fit some driving lights above your tail light too. And an oogah horn.
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