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highwayrider
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Full licence and cheaper first bike? Reply with quote

Ok, now after doing my CBT I'm completely hooked on motorbikes. I'd like to get my full licence and no have to ride around on L plates, and being 22 I feel I kind of should get the A2 and not have a 125. I slave away part time on minimum wage, therefore I have to be really carefull with my money. I've only budgeted around £1200 for the bike itself and about £300 for insurance and tax.

Do I buy a half decent 125 and ride on a CBT, or do I buy a cheaper bike and get my full licence? Getting a full licence will cost around £400 I reckon, don't think you can get it any cheaper, so that'll leave me with £800 for my first bike. Jut wish doing the training wasn't so expensive.

What do you guys think?
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what it's worth: Spend most of what you have on a reasonable 125 and insurance and get experience on it. Save something for parts and gas and do the training when you have more money coming in.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

noobRider wrote:
For what it's worth: Spend most of what you have on a reasonable 125 and insurance and get experience on it. Save something for parts and gas and do the training when you have more money coming in.


Definitely agree with this. Motorcycling is a bit of an expensive hobby on a part-time salary.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess. Just fancied the full licence.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a car licence either, so a bike will be my only method of commuting over the summer. That's why I fancy a bigger bike than a 125, even if it's just a 250 or something.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My son says he had most fun on a NSR125, until it blew up Smile

Maybe do DAS when you're 24 (that's still do-able isn't it?)
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need the bike for commuting aswell as play. Tempted to just pass and get something like a 250cc superdream. They are not too expensive.
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

noobRider wrote:
My son says he had most fun on a NSR125, until it blew up Smile

Maybe do DAS when you're 24 (that's still do-able isn't it?)


Does make sense to wait untill I'm 24.
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 29 and got my licence in december but I'm still on my 125 as I can't afford and don't want a bigger bike just yet (come summer i'd like a bigger bike)

if you stick with a 125 be picky about what you get so that it meets your needs, my vadaero was chosen as it's a bigger bike for its engine size which suits me well as I have long legs and it can do 70mph.
I do try and avoid motorways tho

as you're not old enough to do DAS you could do the highest test you're able to / can afford to on test centre bikes and then have a small bike for a few years getting a bigger bike in a few years time.

Apparently it's easier to ride a smaller lighter bike in current bad conditions than a larger heavier bike (the vadaero is good at this)
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd do the full test, i only have a part time job and i get on just fine Smile
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

highwayrider wrote:
I don't have a car licence either, so a bike will be my only method of commuting over the summer. That's why I fancy a bigger bike than a 125, even if it's just a 250 or something.


I commuted over a year on a 125 (a pretty low powered one at that) including monthly trips to manchester and back (300 mile round trip)

Handled it with no issues, you will however get annoyed occasionally not being able to overtake on dual carriageways
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Sheep wrote:
Apparently it's easier to ride a smaller lighter bike in current bad conditions than a larger heavier bike (the vadaero is good at this)


From personal experience i'd definately agree with this, the cityfly handles the white stuff much better than the hornet does
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a tough one. Realistically, you should expect to spend at least £600 on getting licensed.

It's £121.50 just for the tests (and that hasn't gone up in years), plus training / bike hire costs of about £150 a day. So £600 only gets you 3 days including a test day.

You'll have to speak to the local training schools to see if they can do better, but don't expect miracles.

In your position, I might very well stick with a 125 and start saving up for going straight to A at 24. Sorry.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some training places are pretty good with the price, where i did mine, they gave me as much training as they felt i needed and then booked the tests for me, i paid £400 ish and that included taking the bike home with me, several days of training, and more training after failing for the first mod 2 attempt (stupid reason)
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

These guys do a full course for £240 and they're very close to me.


https://www.hinckleyrts.co.uk/
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

highwayrider wrote:
These guys do a full course for £240 and they're very close to me.


https://www.hinckleyrts.co.uk/


For £240 i'd definitely do the test if i were you.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

highwayrider wrote:
These guys do a full course for £240 and they're very close to me.


https://www.hinckleyrts.co.uk/


Are you sure?

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Accompanied test course with bike hire £240
Both courses together with bike hire £320
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow that's really cheap Smile
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:
highwayrider wrote:
These guys do a full course for £240 and they're very close to me.


https://www.hinckleyrts.co.uk/


Are you sure?

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Accompanied test course with bike hire £240
Both courses together with bike hire £320


I just want to do the accompanied test course. I think both together is for the course and CBT.
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are a none profit organisation hence why so cheap, Teflon will say more when he sees the thread but apparently are really good at teaching and well worth it for the money they charge.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could I get a reliable bike for around £800 though?
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd personally rather have a full licence and a £600 bike and than a £1000 125

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201301164937719/sort/recpriceascdefault/usedbikes/cc-from/200cc/body-type/roadster%5D%5Dretro/cc-to/300cc/postcode/le102js/radius/1500/page/1?logcode=p
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need a maintenance budget, by the way.
Amount depends on how bad SHTF, but I reckon a few hundred just so that you don't end up riding with dodgy tyres 'because you can't afford new ones' is a good plan.

Tyres, chains, oil, brake pads are all cheaper on the smaller bike, to start with. Fuel efficiency is also far higher (close to double).

Gear if you plan on falling off, too.
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 23 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I have the gear already. I've got some decent leathers and have 300 aside for fuel and maintance. The instructor who I did my CBT with has said £400 all in, and he's a really good instructor, too.
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

highwayrider wrote:
Could I get a reliable bike for around £800 though?


Easy paid £700 for the divvy never let me down in 14mnths Thumbs Up
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