Pre 19/01/2013 Test Pass

Sportsbikez · L Plate Warrior Joined: 24 Jan 2013 Karma :

Hi, I passed my test on the 11/01/2013 and got my licence through the post today. I wasn't sure if the licence is pre 19/01/13 one because I passed my test for the A2 licence but on the back of the photocard licence I have categories AM 19/01/13 - 08/06/65, category A 11/01/13 - 08/06/65 with restriction "=<25KW" and also kpq 11/01/13 - 08/06/65.
Can anyone tell me whether this is one of the new licences or is it definitely a pre 19/01/13 licence?
Thanks, Dan.

Conzar · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Jun 2012 Karma :

If its got =<25KW you are on the 33bhp license.
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P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Yep, 33hp and free in 2 years.

Sportsbikez · L Plate Warrior Joined: 24 Jan 2013 Karma :

Alright thanks, worried me a little seeing the 19/01 dates on it. Will the <25kw restriction disappear if I renew my licence after two years then yeah?

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Sportsbikez · L Plate Warrior Joined: 24 Jan 2013 Karma :

I'll probably just keep this license for ten years until I have to renew it then and I'm guessing the police and highway agency know that the <25kw restriction doesn't imply after two years of holding the license even if it's there?

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Sportsbikez · L Plate Warrior Joined: 24 Jan 2013 Karma :

Yeah it worries me because I can't see anywhere on the licence that says that <25kw doesn't mean anything after two years so it looks like I'm only ever going to be allowed on a bike that's <25kw but I guess everyone's says the same thing?
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P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

They'll know, it is fine

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P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Spamalittle · Scooby Slapper Joined: 15 Nov 2012 Karma :

Gotta say I'm still with Paddy on this one.

End of the day, given that the restriction most definitely ends after two years, no contesting that, the onus would be on a dim copper to prove that it didn't. Yeah, could cost you 5 mins whilst the copper calls someone in the know but I'll take this in exchange for the DVLA taking two years of my biking history. Imagine how many insurance cock-ups this could lead to?

Insurance bloke: "How long did you state you've had your full licence on your policy?"
Me: "Five years."
Insurance bloke: "says 'ere on your licence three years. Feck off ye'll not get a penny out of us."

Reckon sorting that sort of situation with the DVLA would be a feck load harder than dealing with the rozzers for 5 mins....
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Spamalittle · Scooby Slapper Joined: 15 Nov 2012 Karma :

Yerp, it's six and half dozen really but, believe it or not, I'd rather put my faith in the police knowing what they're doing rather than chance the DVLA making more botches to my precious licence.

As our Graham says "the decision is yours"
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covent.gardens · World Clap Champion Joined: 09 Jun 2012 Karma :

I am not looking forward to deciding what to declare in future.

I passed in May 2012:
In May 2013 I declare licence held one year.
In May 2014 I declare licence held two years.
In May 2015, some insurers seem to think I should be declaring Licence held as 0 years, just because the restriction expired, and worse, I seem to remember reading the Insurance Ombudsman siding with them! Whereas other insurers are more sensible and would regard me as having 3 years.

It really is BS, and a right mess, they should sort it out.

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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

That was a very specific case involving eBike. They are one of the few insurers who actually do distinguish between A1, A<=25kW (which they called A2 Doh!

) and A. So in that context, it was held to be reasonable that they were asking how long their customer had held that exact type of license.

As it turns out, I was with eBike when my A<=25kW upgraded and I changed it online from 1 year of A<=25kW to 0 years of A, for a total cost of £0.00.

Most insurers only distinguish between provisional and full. By those definitions, any A1, A<=25kW, A2 or A would be a "full" license. Some even ask specifically when you passed your test. As long as you have something that shows that, you should be be fine.
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