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Uncle fester
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 27 Jan 2013    Post subject: To goop or not to goop ? Reply with quote

Hi should I use goop in my tyres.? I seem like a good idea and would save a lot of agro with punctures .
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 27 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Having seen one of these leak badly once used at high speed I am a bit dubious about it.

I would rather know a about a puncture rather than the tyre keep it a secret until I am going fast enough for it to be really lethal.

All the best

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PostPosted: 18:03 - 27 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally wouldn't want to use the stuff EVER.
However if I was forced to, I would accept it for my car and get the tyre changed when possible.
On a bike, I'd be looking to change it ASAP.

From experience from friends ect.
My opinion could be completely unfounded, yet it's what I would do.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 27 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sickpup is the person to ask about this.
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PostPosted: 05:50 - 28 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

watched a mate throw some in his R6 results were very fucking amusing 3 days of his bike bouncing everywhere at anything over 60 he had the messy task of removing it all haha easier and cheaper to just carry an emergency plug kit under the seat
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PostPosted: 07:45 - 28 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberglass wrote:
watched a mate throw some in his R6 results were very fucking amusing 3 days of his bike bouncing everywhere at anything over 60 he had the messy task of removing it all haha easier and cheaper to just carry an emergency plug kit under the seat


All of this is nonsense. ^^^

I have been using 'goop' in tyres for years and have no issues. Never had any flats and never had to leave the bike coz the tyre was down.

It doesn't affect balance so long as the correct amount is injected into the tyre. It 'sets-up' in seconds when initially run up to 50MPH. I have it in all my bikes and cars. The S1000RR has touched 130MPH (on the local race track of course) and suffered no wobble, shake or vibration.
I do know that if too much is injected it will cause wobble.

As to knowing about a puncture. You of course wont know as you wont get a puncture. It keeps your pressure constant apart from the slight losses from air passing through rubber.

If you do get a puncture to big for the sealant to effectively 'seal' the tyre will normally remain inflated. Though gradually air will leak. The leak will let some sealant out which will clearly indicate the tyre has a problem.
Some folk dont even know an 'un-treated' tyre has a problem until it's too late when you're out with the crew and you are left with your flat and they all feck off. (Bikers are Bastirts)

What I would suggest is, Buy it and Try it. Or buy a plug kit and if unfortunate and puncture a tyre limp home/to a petrol station to fill the tyre properly (if you don't carry a pump) as the CO2 cylinders will not fill a bike tyre to anything near useable. You would probably need about 40 cylinders.
Last time I seen anyone use a plug was at the NorthWest 200 last year. Poor fecker had a flat and some other guys kindly helped to fix it. It took about 3/4 of an hour to 'fix' and even then the repair was AS dodgy as 'having Tyre Sealant in'. (He did go to the races with his homies but they fecked off and left him.)

Removing sealant from tyres and rims is very simple. It's a water based compound which stays liquid so can be rinsed out of the tyre/rim using a garden/workshop hose.
The companies who fit my car and bike tyres never complain about sealant. Just let them know there is sealant in the tyre.

Some moaning cunts will bleat about how they 'will have to charge to clean out..' Go elsewhere for service as I wouldn't give a moaning cunt like that the steam off my shite. Mad

Just my opinion.
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cyberglass
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PostPosted: 08:45 - 28 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of this is nonsense..

thats your opinion and thats fair enough but
after actually being there and witnessing it myself i wouldn't even think of putting anything in my tires now.

For the same price as temp tyre plug kit its just not worth the risk to me.
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 28 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberglass wrote:
All of this is nonsense..

thats your opinion and thats fair enough but
after actually being there and witnessing it myself i wouldn't even think of putting anything in my tires now.

For the same price as temp tyre plug kit its just not worth the risk to me.


I believe you were there no doubt. I just say that I use it in several different bikes over the last ten years and only had issue one time when I put too much compound in.

That was no reason to diss thwe product. It was my error.
The product works perfectly and too many people knock it because of folklore and myth rather than concrete evidence based on valid conditions.

I had sealant in a Yamaha T'Cat, Triumph Sprint ST, both BMW R1200GS, Mrs.' Kawasaki ER6F and the Honda CG125 (Track-Bike)

No issue only the Trumpet front wheel when I spunked too much in. That required the tyre to come off, clean out and add the correct amount.

I do enough miles on my bikes to give a proper opinion on this stuff. I say it's good to use.

Issues:
1. Use the correct amount for the tyre size.
2. Have someone help to squeez the stuff into the tyre.
3. 'Set it up' by riding at 50mph for about five miles after initial fill before giving it the Welly.
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 28 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used the Puncturesafe stuff in the tyres on the SV and never had a problem, or a puncture. I havent used it on the Daytona and I did get a puncture that the sealant would have easily sorted, instead it was a trip to my local tyre fitter with the bikes back wheel for a patch.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 28 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used the puncture safe stuff as well, bought it from a motorbike show. All you need to do is check your tyres often like you would normally for nails and screws, there's usually a tell tale smudge of green oozing out. Of course its not a permanent seal, but it'll get you home without any catastrophes.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 28 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good friend of mine runs goop in his CBR600RR, never had an issue and we are regularly well into triple figures ( track of course!) so if it caused an issue at 60mph id suggest someone did something wrong....
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